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Started by Beef, June 23, 2005, 10:50:52 AM

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Beefy

I'm trying not to get my hopes up.


Alice

I feel you Beefy.  I keep trying not to get my hopes up that she'll finally stop writing them too.  But here she goes again.

dc

23 days for you, maybe....  Some of us will have it before then.

Beefy

Quote from: dc on June 23, 2005, 10:54:01 AM
23 days for you, maybe....  Some of us will have it before then.

Yes, but you won't have time to read it with all those dates you're going on.

dc

Quote from: Beefy on June 23, 2005, 10:55:10 AM
Quote from: dc on June 23, 2005, 10:54:01 AM
23 days for you, maybe....  Some of us will have it before then.

Yes, but you won't have time to read it with all those dates you're going on.

I noticed that people were concerned about my social life and trying to set dates for me....

OBB

Hey dc, my girlfriend would probably go on a date with you if you give her a copy of the book early.

nishi

hell, *i'd* go on a date with you if you'd give me the book early.
"we left the motherland to settle a colony on Juntoo.  hats with belt buckles."
-catchr

<- this is a prankapple.

eo000

Quote from: nishi on June 23, 2005, 11:05:47 AM
hell, *i'd* go on a date with you if you'd give me the book early.
would you let him out of the closet, though?

nishi

Quote from: eo000 on June 23, 2005, 11:08:08 AM
Quote from: nishi on June 23, 2005, 11:05:47 AM
hell, *i'd* go on a date with you if you'd give me the book early.
would you let him out of the closet, though?

not necessarily. although if the squirrels are in there as well, we're going out for the evening. i think it would help him build character if he had to buy me dinner.
"we left the motherland to settle a colony on Juntoo.  hats with belt buckles."
-catchr

<- this is a prankapple.

dc

Quote from: nishi on June 23, 2005, 11:09:41 AM
Quote from: eo000 on June 23, 2005, 11:08:08 AM
Quote from: nishi on June 23, 2005, 11:05:47 AM
hell, *i'd* go on a date with you if you'd give me the book early.
would you let him out of the closet, though?

not necessarily. although if the squirrels are in there as well, we're going out for the evening. i think it would help him build character if he had to buy me dinner.

Buy you dinner?  You told me that *making* you dinner would help me build character.

nishi

Quote from: dc on June 23, 2005, 11:12:50 AM
Quote from: nishi on June 23, 2005, 11:09:41 AM
Quote from: eo000 on June 23, 2005, 11:08:08 AM
Quote from: nishi on June 23, 2005, 11:05:47 AM
hell, *i'd* go on a date with you if you'd give me the book early.
would you let him out of the closet, though?

not necessarily. although if the squirrels are in there as well, we're going out for the evening. i think it would help him build character if he had to buy me dinner.

Buy you dinner?  You told me that *making* you dinner would help me build character.

right. and making my dinner has really taken you about as far as you can go with the whole character thing. time to try a different approach.
"we left the motherland to settle a colony on Juntoo.  hats with belt buckles."
-catchr

<- this is a prankapple.

dc

Quote from: nishi on June 23, 2005, 11:13:58 AM
Quote from: dc on June 23, 2005, 11:12:50 AM
Quote from: nishi on June 23, 2005, 11:09:41 AM
Quote from: eo000 on June 23, 2005, 11:08:08 AM
Quote from: nishi on June 23, 2005, 11:05:47 AM
hell, *i'd* go on a date with you if you'd give me the book early.
would you let him out of the closet, though?

not necessarily. although if the squirrels are in there as well, we're going out for the evening. i think it would help him build character if he had to buy me dinner.

Buy you dinner?  You told me that *making* you dinner would help me build character.

right. and making my dinner has really taken you about as far as you can go with the whole character thing. time to try a different approach.

What about the other things you have me do to for you?  Do they build character as well?

nishi

Quote from: dc on June 23, 2005, 11:18:10 AM
Quote from: nishi on June 23, 2005, 11:13:58 AM
Quote from: dc on June 23, 2005, 11:12:50 AM
Quote from: nishi on June 23, 2005, 11:09:41 AM
Quote from: eo000 on June 23, 2005, 11:08:08 AM
Quote from: nishi on June 23, 2005, 11:05:47 AM
hell, *i'd* go on a date with you if you'd give me the book early.
would you let him out of the closet, though?

not necessarily. although if the squirrels are in there as well, we're going out for the evening. i think it would help him build character if he had to buy me dinner.

Buy you dinner?  You told me that *making* you dinner would help me build character.

right. and making my dinner has really taken you about as far as you can go with the whole character thing. time to try a different approach.

What about the other things you have me do to for you?  Do they build character as well?

apparently not enough.
"we left the motherland to settle a colony on Juntoo.  hats with belt buckles."
-catchr

<- this is a prankapple.

dc

Quote from: nishi on June 23, 2005, 11:18:46 AM
Quote from: dc on June 23, 2005, 11:18:10 AM
Quote from: nishi on June 23, 2005, 11:13:58 AM
Quote from: dc on June 23, 2005, 11:12:50 AM
Quote from: nishi on June 23, 2005, 11:09:41 AM
Quote from: eo000 on June 23, 2005, 11:08:08 AM
Quote from: nishi on June 23, 2005, 11:05:47 AM
hell, *i'd* go on a date with you if you'd give me the book early.
would you let him out of the closet, though?

not necessarily. although if the squirrels are in there as well, we're going out for the evening. i think it would help him build character if he had to buy me dinner.

Buy you dinner?  You told me that *making* you dinner would help me build character.

right. and making my dinner has really taken you about as far as you can go with the whole character thing. time to try a different approach.

What about the other things you have me do to for you?  Do they build character as well?

apparently not enough.

Well, if you let me out of the closet more often, I'd get more practice.

dazie

:)  I've gone on dates with him and have gotten...
:evil:
"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?"
I think so, Brain, but how will we get the Spice Girls into the paella?

Beefy

Back on topic.  It didn't occur to me before DC said something, so now it's fair game.

You're getting early copies...?

nishi

Quote from: Beefy on June 23, 2005, 11:25:04 AM
Back on topic.  It didn't occur to me before DC said something, so now it's fair game.

You're getting early copies...?

heh. i asked about that yesterday. he told me i'd get turned into a newt.
"we left the motherland to settle a colony on Juntoo.  hats with belt buckles."
-catchr

<- this is a prankapple.

Beefy

I can live with being a newt, as long as I can still read the book.

dc

Quote from: Beefy on June 23, 2005, 11:25:04 AM
Back on topic.  It didn't occur to me before DC said something, so now it's fair game.

You're getting early copies...?

Actually, every book (or dvd or cd, etc.) that has an "on sale date" has the on sale date because they're shipped ahead of time.  That way, the product can be in position, and the big guys who handle individual store distribution don't have an advantage by selling early.  We get them and sit on them until the sell date.

Beefy

I'll be a professional squirrel fluffer if you hook me up, bud.

dc

Quote from: Beefy on June 23, 2005, 11:31:39 AM
I'll be a professional squirrel fluffer if you hook me up, bud.

That involves a lot of work.....

OBB

I would name all of my children DC if I got an early copy. Plus I'd get them DNA transplants so they can grow up to be you.

dc

Quote from: OBB on June 23, 2005, 12:26:54 PM
I would name all of my children DC if I got an early copy. Plus I'd get them DNA transplants so they can grow up to be you.

DNA transplants?  That's got to be one of the strangest pick up lines I've ever heard.

nishi

Quote from: OBB on June 23, 2005, 12:26:54 PM
I would name all of my children DC if I got an early copy. Plus I'd get them DNA transplants so they can grow up to be you.

you're scaring me.
"we left the motherland to settle a colony on Juntoo.  hats with belt buckles."
-catchr

<- this is a prankapple.

dc

Quote from: nishi on June 23, 2005, 12:29:27 PM
Quote from: OBB on June 23, 2005, 12:26:54 PM
I would name all of my children DC if I got an early copy. Plus I'd get them DNA transplants so they can grow up to be you.

you're scaring me.

Imagine it!  More of me around!

OBB

Quote from: dc on June 23, 2005, 12:33:09 PM
Quote from: nishi on June 23, 2005, 12:29:27 PM
Quote from: OBB on June 23, 2005, 12:26:54 PM
I would name all of my children DC if I got an early copy. Plus I'd get them DNA transplants so they can grow up to be you.

you're scaring me.

Imagine it!  More of me around!

You'd need a bigger closet, Nishi.

dc

Quote from: OBB on June 23, 2005, 12:33:45 PM
Quote from: dc on June 23, 2005, 12:33:09 PM
Quote from: nishi on June 23, 2005, 12:29:27 PM
Quote from: OBB on June 23, 2005, 12:26:54 PM
I would name all of my children DC if I got an early copy. Plus I'd get them DNA transplants so they can grow up to be you.

you're scaring me.

Imagine it!  More of me around!

You'd need a bigger closet, Nishi.

Yeah, but imagine the opportunities for her to "build my character".....

nishi

Quote from: OBB on June 23, 2005, 12:33:45 PM
Quote from: dc on June 23, 2005, 12:33:09 PM
Quote from: nishi on June 23, 2005, 12:29:27 PM
Quote from: OBB on June 23, 2005, 12:26:54 PM
I would name all of my children DC if I got an early copy. Plus I'd get them DNA transplants so they can grow up to be you.

you're scaring me.

Imagine it!  More of me around!

You'd need a bigger closet, Nishi.

how many children do you plan on having? maybe a small family??

otherwise, i'd need a bigger house.
"we left the motherland to settle a colony on Juntoo.  hats with belt buckles."
-catchr

<- this is a prankapple.

nishi

Quote from: dc on June 23, 2005, 12:36:46 PM
Quote from: OBB on June 23, 2005, 12:33:45 PM
Quote from: dc on June 23, 2005, 12:33:09 PM
Quote from: nishi on June 23, 2005, 12:29:27 PM
Quote from: OBB on June 23, 2005, 12:26:54 PM
I would name all of my children DC if I got an early copy. Plus I'd get them DNA transplants so they can grow up to be you.

you're scaring me.

Imagine it!  More of me around!

You'd need a bigger closet, Nishi.

Yeah, but imagine the opportunities for her to "build my character".....

forget that. i'm going to pimp all the yous out so i can pay off the rest of my student loans.
"we left the motherland to settle a colony on Juntoo.  hats with belt buckles."
-catchr

<- this is a prankapple.

Alice

Quote from: nishi on June 23, 2005, 12:42:52 PM
Quote from: OBB on June 23, 2005, 12:33:45 PM
Quote from: dc on June 23, 2005, 12:33:09 PM
Quote from: nishi on June 23, 2005, 12:29:27 PM
Quote from: OBB on June 23, 2005, 12:26:54 PM
I would name all of my children DC if I got an early copy. Plus I'd get them DNA transplants so they can grow up to be you.

you're scaring me.

Imagine it!  More of me around!

You'd need a bigger closet, Nishi.

how many children do you plan on having? maybe a small family??

otherwise, i'd need a bigger house.
Squirrel is in the closet.  Our squirrel.  Think we need a bigger house.

dazie

Quote from: nishi on June 23, 2005, 12:42:52 PM
Quote from: OBB on June 23, 2005, 12:33:45 PM
Quote from: dc on June 23, 2005, 12:33:09 PM
Quote from: nishi on June 23, 2005, 12:29:27 PM
Quote from: OBB on June 23, 2005, 12:26:54 PM
I would name all of my children DC if I got an early copy. Plus I'd get them DNA transplants so they can grow up to be you.

you're scaring me.

Imagine it!  More of me around!

You'd need a bigger closet, Nishi.

how many children do you plan on having? maybe a small family??

otherwise, i'd need a bigger house.

DC's family is all pretty small...
"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?"
I think so, Brain, but how will we get the Spice Girls into the paella?

eo000

Quote from: dazie on June 23, 2005, 10:50:06 PM
Quote from: nishi on June 23, 2005, 12:42:52 PM
Quote from: OBB on June 23, 2005, 12:33:45 PM
Quote from: dc on June 23, 2005, 12:33:09 PM
Quote from: nishi on June 23, 2005, 12:29:27 PM
Quote from: OBB on June 23, 2005, 12:26:54 PM
I would name all of my children DC if I got an early copy. Plus I'd get them DNA transplants so they can grow up to be you.

you're scaring me.

Imagine it!  More of me around!

You'd need a bigger closet, Nishi.

how many children do you plan on having? maybe a small family??

otherwise, i'd need a bigger house.

DC's family is all pretty small...
Are you saying she could get by with some extra shelving units, instead of expanding nishi manner?

Beefy

Quote from: eo000 on June 24, 2005, 05:43:28 AM

Are you saying she could get by with some extra shelving units, instead of expanding nishi manor?

eo000

Quote from: Beefy on June 24, 2005, 06:37:23 AM
Quote from: eo000 on June 24, 2005, 05:43:28 AM

Are you saying she could get by with some extra shelving units, instead of expanding nishi manor?
* eo000 goes back to the stupid corner.

Jessie

Quote from: eo000 on June 24, 2005, 06:38:42 AM
Quote from: Beefy on June 24, 2005, 06:37:23 AM
Quote from: eo000 on June 24, 2005, 05:43:28 AM

Are you saying she could get by with some extra shelving units, instead of expanding nishi manor?
* eo000 goes back to the stupid corner.

You've been spending a lot of time there.

Maybe we should rename it in your honor or something.
we should have kept the quote pyramid up to rape Jessie in the face.

eo000

Quote from: Jessie on June 24, 2005, 07:08:44 AM
Quote from: eo000 on June 24, 2005, 06:38:42 AM
Quote from: Beefy on June 24, 2005, 06:37:23 AM
Quote from: eo000 on June 24, 2005, 05:43:28 AM

Are you saying she could get by with some extra shelving units, instead of expanding nishi manor?
* eo000 goes back to the stupid corner.

You've been spending a lot of time there.

Maybe we should rename it in your honor or something.
Good point.

Beefy

Hey DC, got your hands on it yet?  If so, who dies?

nishi

i was just reading in newsweek that rumors are running that it's dumbledore..... in which case you won't be hearing for me for a while after this weekend, as i will be in mourning.

if anyone is into the audio version of the books, jim dale will be reading live on the today show tomorrow morning. and if you've not heard him, he's amazing. i like reading the print versions of these, but he is fantastic.
"we left the motherland to settle a colony on Juntoo.  hats with belt buckles."
-catchr

<- this is a prankapple.

dc

There's a new Harry Potter book coming out?  I hadn't heard....

BigDun

Quote from: nishi on July 11, 2005, 04:22:34 PM
i was just reading in newsweek that rumors are running that it's dumbledore..... in which case you won't be hearing for me for a while after this weekend, as i will be in mourning.

if anyone is into the audio version of the books, jim dale will be reading live on the today show tomorrow morning. and if you've not heard him, he's amazing. i like reading the print versions of these, but he is fantastic.

Me and my wife ♥ Jim Dale. We are re-listening the last book in preparation for reading the new one. We are on tape 13 of 17. I hope we can finish it before Saturday.
16:26:25 [DownSouth] I'm in a monkey rutt

nishi

i did my re-reading a couple of months ago. although i think i'll pick up the last one and read the last quarter or so of it between now and friday night.

when i was narrating regularly, i had a lot of different character voices at my internal beck and call, but jim dale - he is just astounding. hundreds and hundreds of characters, and they're all distinct. not overdone. he's an amazing person.
"we left the motherland to settle a colony on Juntoo.  hats with belt buckles."
-catchr

<- this is a prankapple.

dc

Quote from: Beefy on July 11, 2005, 03:51:16 PM
Hey DC, got your hands on it yet?  If so, who dies?

I know who dies....  It's Harry.  The next book is titled "Ron Weasley and the Unnecessary Sequel".

Beefy

Quote from: dc on July 12, 2005, 03:28:13 PM
Quote from: Beefy on July 11, 2005, 03:51:16 PM
Hey DC, got your hands on it yet?  If so, who dies?

I know who dies....  It's Harry.  The next book is titled "Ron Weasley and the Unnecessary Sequel".

Well, I have been thinking Harry should drop out of school to escape this rut he's in.

dc

Quote from: Beefy on July 12, 2005, 06:06:04 PM
Quote from: dc on July 12, 2005, 03:28:13 PM
Quote from: Beefy on July 11, 2005, 03:51:16 PM
Hey DC, got your hands on it yet?  If so, who dies?

I know who dies....  It's Harry.  The next book is titled "Ron Weasley and the Unnecessary Sequel".

Well, I have been thinking Harry should drop out of school to escape this rut he's in.

I'm on chapter 22, and he's just been expelled for dealing crack to first-years.

BigDun

Quote from: dc on July 12, 2005, 06:50:00 PM
Quote from: Beefy on July 12, 2005, 06:06:04 PM
Quote from: dc on July 12, 2005, 03:28:13 PM
Quote from: Beefy on July 11, 2005, 03:51:16 PM
Hey DC, got your hands on it yet?  If so, who dies?

I know who dies....  It's Harry.  The next book is titled "Ron Weasley and the Unnecessary Sequel".

Well, I have been thinking Harry should drop out of school to escape this rut he's in.

I'm on chapter 22, and he's just been expelled for dealing crack to first-years.

Has Hermione turned to prostitution like we always knew she would?
16:26:25 [DownSouth] I'm in a monkey rutt

nishi

Quote from: BigDun on July 12, 2005, 07:13:40 PM
Quote from: dc on July 12, 2005, 06:50:00 PM
Quote from: Beefy on July 12, 2005, 06:06:04 PM
Quote from: dc on July 12, 2005, 03:28:13 PM
Quote from: Beefy on July 11, 2005, 03:51:16 PM
Hey DC, got your hands on it yet?  If so, who dies?

I know who dies....  It's Harry.  The next book is titled "Ron Weasley and the Unnecessary Sequel".

Well, I have been thinking Harry should drop out of school to escape this rut he's in.

I'm on chapter 22, and he's just been expelled for dealing crack to first-years.

Has Hermione turned to prostitution like we always knew she would?

see, i didn't think that. i always assumed she'd just pimp out the house elves.
"we left the motherland to settle a colony on Juntoo.  hats with belt buckles."
-catchr

<- this is a prankapple.

dc

Quote from: BigDun on July 12, 2005, 07:13:40 PM
Quote from: dc on July 12, 2005, 06:50:00 PM
Quote from: Beefy on July 12, 2005, 06:06:04 PM
Quote from: dc on July 12, 2005, 03:28:13 PM
Quote from: Beefy on July 11, 2005, 03:51:16 PM
Hey DC, got your hands on it yet?  If so, who dies?

I know who dies....  It's Harry.  The next book is titled "Ron Weasley and the Unnecessary Sequel".

Well, I have been thinking Harry should drop out of school to escape this rut he's in.

I'm on chapter 22, and he's just been expelled for dealing crack to first-years.

Has Hermione turned to prostitution like we always knew she would?

If by "prostitution", you mean that she charges for it, then no.  She might have the same number of male companions, but she doesn't charge.

Alice

Hey nishi?  Have you ever had to narrate any Irvine Welsh books?

nishi

Quote from: aliceliddell on July 12, 2005, 09:07:59 PM
Hey nishi?  Have you ever had to narrate any Irvine Welsh books?

no. and that's a good thing because my scottish dialect is not my strong suit. i have to listen to nothing but scottish dialect tapes for days and days in order to come close and even then i'm afraid that i just sound like i'm doing a bad sean connery impression.....
"we left the motherland to settle a colony on Juntoo.  hats with belt buckles."
-catchr

<- this is a prankapple.

DownSouth

16:15:43 [Gamplayerx] Juneau, I could really go for some pie. You better Belize it!

Beefy


Beefy

Midnight tonight.

Rumors are running rampant that one of the three leads will actually bite the dust this time.

I doubt it would be Harry, though I would be impressed if it was.

nishi

Quote from: Beefy on July 15, 2005, 10:41:45 AM
Midnight tonight.

Rumors are running rampant that one of the three leads will actually bite the dust this time.

I doubt it would be Harry, though I would be impressed if it was.

i'm curious about why you'd be impressed....
"we left the motherland to settle a colony on Juntoo.  hats with belt buckles."
-catchr

<- this is a prankapple.

dc

Quote from: Beefy on July 15, 2005, 10:41:45 AM
Midnight tonight.

Rumors are running rampant that one of the three leads will actually bite the dust this time.

I doubt it would be Harry, though I would be impressed if it was.

I know who it is!!!

eo000

Quote from: dc on July 15, 2005, 10:54:45 AM
Quote from: Beefy on July 15, 2005, 10:41:45 AM
Midnight tonight.

Rumors are running rampant that one of the three leads will actually bite the dust this time.

I doubt it would be Harry, though I would be impressed if it was.

I know who it is!!!

you like being evil, don't you?

dc

Quote from: eo000 on July 15, 2005, 11:01:17 AM
Quote from: dc on July 15, 2005, 10:54:45 AM
Quote from: Beefy on July 15, 2005, 10:41:45 AM
Midnight tonight.

Rumors are running rampant that one of the three leads will actually bite the dust this time.

I doubt it would be Harry, though I would be impressed if it was.

I know who it is!!!

you like being evil, don't you?

I do.  I'm still contemplating posting spoilers in random threads.....  Like this -- The "Half Blood Prince" is Michael Eisner.

Beefy

Quote from: nishi on July 15, 2005, 10:54:24 AM
Quote from: Beefy on July 15, 2005, 10:41:45 AM
Midnight tonight.

Rumors are running rampant that one of the three leads will actually bite the dust this time.

I doubt it would be Harry, though I would be impressed if it was.

i'm curious about why you'd be impressed....

Because it would break from a successful formula to do something truly exciting and different.  Take a character you have an emotional investment in and show that sometimes good doesn't always win.  Have the cojones to kill THE major character of the series and then take the story in a new, unforeseen direction.

Of course, killing Harry wouldn't inherently be cool if it wasn't handled in a unique and credible way.  Otherwise it's just death for shock value.

Then again, shock value might not be that bad a thing with a staling formula.

eo000

Quote from: dc on July 15, 2005, 11:03:31 AM
Quote from: eo000 on July 15, 2005, 11:01:17 AM
Quote from: dc on July 15, 2005, 10:54:45 AM
Quote from: Beefy on July 15, 2005, 10:41:45 AM
Midnight tonight.

Rumors are running rampant that one of the three leads will actually bite the dust this time.

I doubt it would be Harry, though I would be impressed if it was.

I know who it is!!!

you like being evil, don't you?

I do.  I'm still contemplating posting spoilers in random threads.....  Like this -- The "Half Blood Prince" is Michael Eisner.

hahahahahhahaha.

dc

Quote from: Beefy on July 15, 2005, 11:04:13 AM
Quote from: nishi on July 15, 2005, 10:54:24 AM
Quote from: Beefy on July 15, 2005, 10:41:45 AM
Midnight tonight.

Rumors are running rampant that one of the three leads will actually bite the dust this time.

I doubt it would be Harry, though I would be impressed if it was.

i'm curious about why you'd be impressed....

Because it would break from a successful formula to do something truly exciting and different.  Take a character you have an emotional investment in and show that sometimes good doesn't always win.  Have the cojones to kill THE major character of the series and then take the story in a new, unforeseen direction.

Of course, killing Harry wouldn't inherently be cool if it wasn't handled in a unique and credible way.  Otherwise it's just death for shock value.

Then again, shock value might not be that bad a thing with a staling formula.

Without revealing anything, this book in my opinion, at least, is decidedly more adult in tone and structure.  Less focused on action than on structuring the entire story and completing it for the final part.  Things happen that have to happen for the story to reach its conclusion.  Even the death has to happen.

Plus, for those of you with a vested interest in Hermoine, we find out that wizards and witches "come of age" at 17, which gives you a year less to wait.

Beefy

Let's see if I can articulate this properly.

Each of the novels, thus far, have followed the same basic formula: Harry has unfortunate summer with Aunt and Uncle before getting rescued by his magic friends, he goes to school where he gets to play Quiddich, learn some new magic that will undoubtably come in handy for whatever lifethreatening foe he will face, and all is somehow and somewhat resolved in time for a bitter sweet goodbye.

Each new tome introduces a new outlandish mystical creature, but with each new one you gain a greater sense of, "Okay, here's this book's latest creature", instead of having a real point to it's existence.  The threat level to Harry increases with each new book, which is nice, as is the adult shift in tone, but the formula remains the same.  Even dying characters have become part of the formula each time, meaning that they hold less weight.  The death in Goblet of Fire held more weight because it hasn't happened before.  In book five and now six, the impact gets lessened because you're expecting as part of the established formula.

What if Harry went to rescue Ron and didn't succeed?  What if he was killed?  It would hold weight as shock value, but also as an abrupt departure from the formula.  What would the seventh book now be about?  There would be no telling how it would map out, and suddenly without an established formula, anticipation for what would happen next would be delicious.

I guess I get frustrated because she created a world and characters that took the world over by heart, but they're dying under the weight of familiarity.

Shut the damn school down.  Increase the threat so that the comfort zone of the usual formula isn't feasible anymore.  Tell us a new story instead of regurgitating the old one.

All that said, I'll probably be at the store at midnight.

dc

Quote from: Beefy on July 15, 2005, 11:28:58 AM
Let's see if I can articulate this properly.

Each of the novels, thus far, have followed the same basic formula: Harry has unfortunate summer with Aunt and Uncle before getting rescued by his magic friends, he goes to school where he gets to play Quiddich, learn some new magic that will undoubtably come in handy for whatever lifethreatening foe he will face, and all is somehow and somewhat resolved in time for a bitter sweet goodbye.

Each new tome introduces a new outlandish mystical creature, but with each new one you gain a greater sense of, "Okay, here's this book's latest creature", instead of having a real point to it's existence.  The threat level to Harry increases with each new book, which is nice, as is the adult shift in tone, but the formula remains the same.  Even dying characters have become part of the formula each time, meaning that they hold less weight.  The death in Goblet of Fire held more weight because it hasn't happened before.  In book five and now six, the impact gets lessened because you're expecting as part of the established formula.

What if Harry went to rescue Ron and didn't succeed?  What if he was killed?  It would hold weight as shock value, but also as an abrupt departure from the formula.  What would the seventh book now be about?  There would be no telling how it would map out, and suddenly without an established formula, anticipation for what would happen next would be delicious.

I guess I get frustrated because she created a world and characters that took the world over by heart, but they're dying under the weight of familiarity.

Shut the damn school down.  Increase the threat so that the comfort zone of the usual formula isn't feasible anymore.  Tell us a new story instead of regurgitating the old one.

All that said, I'll probably be at the store at midnight.

I think you'll like this one.

eo000

have you finished it already?

ignom

I'm going to go to the bookstore tomorrow and just scan the last chapter or so.
Underneath this flabby exterior is an enormous lack of character.

nishi

time for me to hit the trail, kids - i'm heading out to cincinnati for my harry potter read a thon weekend, with a break at noon tomorrow to see mr. depp portray willie wonka.

i'll check in.

don't get into too much trouble.
"we left the motherland to settle a colony on Juntoo.  hats with belt buckles."
-catchr

<- this is a prankapple.

eo000

Quote from: nishi on July 15, 2005, 03:17:59 PM
time for me to hit the trail, kids - i'm heading out to cincinnati for my harry potter read a thon weekend, with a break at noon tomorrow to see mr. depp portray willie wonka.

i'll check in.

don't get into too much trouble.

have fun.  ;D

Beefy

Some jackhole just blew the spoiler on TF.   >:(

ignom

Quote from: Beefy on July 15, 2005, 03:52:18 PM
Some jackhole just blew the spoiler on TF.   >:(

If it's true, the same thing is all over the greenlighted thread.
Underneath this flabby exterior is an enormous lack of character.

Beefy

Quote from: ignom on July 15, 2005, 03:59:49 PM
Quote from: Beefy on July 15, 2005, 03:52:18 PM
Some jackhole just blew the spoiler on TF.   >:(

If it's true, the same thing is all over the greenlighted thread.

So I'm noticing.

Beefy

And if it wasn't true, dc would be in here refuting it.

ignom

Quote from: Beefy on July 15, 2005, 04:05:46 PM
And if it wasn't true, dc would be in here refuting it.

Or he could just be sitting back and laughing.
Underneath this flabby exterior is an enormous lack of character.

dc

Quote from: ignom on July 15, 2005, 03:59:49 PM
Quote from: Beefy on July 15, 2005, 03:52:18 PM
Some jackhole just blew the spoiler on TF.   >:(

If it's true, the same thing is all over the greenlighted thread.

I haven't been to fark today, so I can neither confirm nor deny the rumors.

Beefy

The death in book 5 was spoiled for me, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised that some tard would do it again. 

Meanwhile, people are stupid:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lincolnshire/4682519.stm

dc

OK, I've seen the spoilers, but I still will neither confirm nor deny it.  If people over there want to post stuff, let 'em, but I won't do it here.

BigDun

I finished it. Anyone else?
16:26:25 [DownSouth] I'm in a monkey rutt

Jessie

we should have kept the quote pyramid up to rape Jessie in the face.

Beefy

Bought it, haven't started it yet.

DC, how bad was it this weekend?

dc

Quote from: BigDun on July 18, 2005, 10:14:59 AM
I finished it. Anyone else?

I finished it last Tuesday...

Quote from: Beefy on July 18, 2005, 10:16:31 AM
Bought it, haven't started it yet.

DC, how bad was it this weekend?

Not too bad.  B&N as a company sold 1.3 million copies.  My store did reasonably well.  Not what I hoped to see, but still pretty good.  They're still moving right along today as well.

cnamon

Yet another thing I just don't get.

How many copies of Star did you sell...that is more up my alley.

Jessie

we should have kept the quote pyramid up to rape Jessie in the face.

dc

Quote from: cnamon on July 18, 2005, 12:10:26 PM
Yet another thing I just don't get.

How many copies of Star did you sell...that is more up my alley.

Well, our sales of 'Star' were definitely hurt by us pointing and laughing at anyone approaching the counter with it.


Jessie

The bad guy was really just part of the good guy all along.
we should have kept the quote pyramid up to rape Jessie in the face.

cnamon

Quote from: dc on July 18, 2005, 12:12:01 PM
Quote from: cnamon on July 18, 2005, 12:10:26 PM
Yet another thing I just don't get.

How many copies of Star did you sell...that is more up my alley.

Well, our sales of 'Star' were definitely hurt by us pointing and laughing at anyone approaching the counter with it.
That is why I went to Border's to buy it.  It is like watching Clueless in there!