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Title: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Jessie on March 06, 2008, 07:23:42 AM
I'm ready to kill Stevie.  Every single morning, between six and seven, when I'm just trying to get a few more minutes of sleep, she climbs my bedroom curtains.

She climbs everything in sight, and has destroyed basically all the curtains in the house.  They're just cheap curtains so it's not a big deal except that it's really, really annoying.  She's broken all the curtain rods.

Screaming at her, knocking her down, spraying her with water...none of these things deter her.  She might run off for a few minutes, but she'll come back and do it all over again.  I had to rehang the bedroom curtains three times this morning.

I'm at my wits end.  Advice?
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: eo000 on March 06, 2008, 07:27:08 AM
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Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Jessie on March 06, 2008, 07:30:39 AM
Quote from: eo000 on March 06, 2008, 07:27:08 AM
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wow that even looks like her.
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: dazie on March 06, 2008, 07:40:12 AM
http://www.softpaws.com/
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Beefy on March 06, 2008, 08:01:46 AM
Electric curtains.
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Jessie on March 06, 2008, 08:14:13 AM
Quote from: dazie on March 06, 2008, 07:40:12 AM
http://www.softpaws.com/
Effective AND attractive!
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Alice on March 06, 2008, 08:21:35 AM
Quote from: Jessie on March 06, 2008, 07:30:39 AM
wow that even looks like her.

No, that cat looks with two eyes.
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Jessie on March 06, 2008, 08:24:40 AM
Quote from: Alice on March 06, 2008, 08:21:35 AM
Quote from: Jessie on March 06, 2008, 07:30:39 AM
wow that even looks like her.

No, that cat looks with two eyes.
Bitch.
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Bennyhana on March 06, 2008, 08:52:59 AM
There are two things you can do:

1. Clip her claws.  You can do this with regular human nail clippers, or you can go to the pet store and get special kitty ones.  I do this with Delia regularly.  If you're worried about hurting her, look instructions up on the internet.  It's really not hard.

2. Next time she does that, grab her and put her out in the car until you are done sleeping/getting ready for work, etc.  A couple times, and she'll get it. 
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Jessie on March 06, 2008, 08:54:29 AM
Yeah, I'm thinking I need to clip her claws.  I'm going to try that tonight, I think.

I just wish there was a way that I could train her to not be so psycho.  She really is just kind of crazy.  My dad has a cat the same age, and he's totally laid back and mellow. 

I love her so much but my god, that cat frustrates me.
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: DownSouth on March 06, 2008, 09:22:15 AM
Hog tie.
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Alice on March 06, 2008, 09:34:29 AM
Quote from: Jessie on March 06, 2008, 08:54:29 AM
I just wish there was a way that I could train her to not be so psycho.  She really is just kind of crazy.  My dad has a cat the same age, and he's totally laid back and mellow. 

I love her so much but my god, that cat frustrates me.

She is a feral cat, so she may always be a little crazy.

I love Bruce to death too, but there are times I just want to give him to someone for a day or two.  I think that's the way it's going to go with any being that's living with you.
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Jessie on March 06, 2008, 09:41:44 AM
Quote from: Alice on March 06, 2008, 09:34:29 AM
Quote from: Jessie on March 06, 2008, 08:54:29 AM
I just wish there was a way that I could train her to not be so psycho.  She really is just kind of crazy.  My dad has a cat the same age, and he's totally laid back and mellow. 

I love her so much but my god, that cat frustrates me.

She is a feral cat, so she may always be a little crazy.

I love Bruce to death too, but there are times I just want to give him to someone for a day or two.  I think that's the way it's going to go with any being that's living with you.
I feel that way about Timothy.
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: DownSouth on March 06, 2008, 09:42:39 AM
Midnight is at my parents right now because the water heater soaked my carpet yesterday.  I miss her.
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Gamplayerx on March 06, 2008, 10:19:49 AM
A couple of things:

1.  Since she has so much energy, you need to exercise her - tire her out.  Pong is a psycho cat.  We play fetch with him until he's just too pooped to move.  Helps a lot - even though we have a whole house for him to roam, it's still not enough for him to get enough exercise.  He also has a couple of different toys that make him run and climb and jump. 

2.  Clip her nails.  As Benny said, you can use regular human nail clippers (make sure they're new and sharp) or the ones made for cats.  I tried the cat ones, and had problems because it's difficult to see the quick (the fleshy bit inside the talon), but the regular nail clippers work like a dream. 

A tip about clipping nails - how it goes depends on how tolerant your cat is, so keep in mind her personality and adjust accordingly. Ping is a whore for any kind of attention at all, so she'll just sit there all day and let me clip clip clip.  Pong, as I've said, is very high strung and full of pent-up energy.  Also, he doesn't like to be restrained.  For him, I scoop him up, flip him on his back, and just do 1 or 2 paws at a time and immediately let him loose.  We tried having Grumpus hold him, but it just makes him more insane and worked up - the quick, sneak attack with no restraint works best.
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Jessie on March 06, 2008, 10:36:06 AM
Quote from: Gamplayerx on March 06, 2008, 10:19:49 AM
A couple of things:

1.  Since she has so much energy, you need to exercise her - tire her out.  Pong is a psycho cat.  We play fetch with him until he's just too pooped to move.  Helps a lot - even though we have a whole house for him to roam, it's still not enough for him to get enough exercise.  He also has a couple of different toys that make him run and climb and jump. 

2.  Clip her nails.  As Benny said, you can use regular human nail clippers (make sure they're new and sharp) or the ones made for cats.  I tried the cat ones, and had problems because it's difficult to see the quick (the fleshy bit inside the talon), but the regular nail clippers work like a dream. 

A tip about clipping nails - how it goes depends on how tolerant your cat is, so keep in mind her personality and adjust accordingly. Ping is a whore for any kind of attention at all, so she'll just sit there all day and let me clip clip clip.  Pong, as I've said, is very high strung and full of pent-up energy.  Also, he doesn't like to be restrained.  For him, I scoop him up, flip him on his back, and just do 1 or 2 paws at a time and immediately let him loose.  We tried having Grumpus hold him, but it just makes him more insane and worked up - the quick, sneak attack with no restraint works best.
I try to keep plenty of toys around for her, and she plays with butters like crazy, but yeah, she still has tons of energy.  I don't know what else to do with her.

She'll definitely be more like Pong with the clipping.  Taking her spay stitches out was interesting.
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Alice on March 06, 2008, 10:44:31 AM
Can you put her in the dryer for a few spins to calm her down?
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Jessie on March 06, 2008, 10:46:51 AM
Quote from: Alice on March 06, 2008, 10:44:31 AM
Can you put her in the dryer for a few spins to calm her down?
Did I ever tell you all that my childhood cat (the one that died last year) had been through two full dryer cycles?
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Gamplayerx on March 06, 2008, 10:50:22 AM
You have to play with her.  If she won't fetch, will she jump up at stuff?  I know she's visually impaired, but could she see a laser pointer (I remember you posting something about a laser pointer).  Jumping is tiring.  
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: DownSouth on March 06, 2008, 10:55:12 AM
Bong hits.
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Alice on March 06, 2008, 10:56:36 AM
Quote from: Jessie on March 06, 2008, 10:46:51 AM
Quote from: Alice on March 06, 2008, 10:44:31 AM
Can you put her in the dryer for a few spins to calm her down?
Did I ever tell you all that my childhood cat (the one that died last year) had been through two full dryer cycles?

Yeah, that's an amazing cat.

My friend had a cat when he was little that he decided to name "Adventure Kitty".  His parents thought it was cute until they realized that it was because he'd put the cat in the dryer or drop it off the stairs, but only when he'd tied a red pillowcase around his neck as a cape.  :-\
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Jessie on March 06, 2008, 02:17:18 PM
Quote from: Gamplayerx on March 06, 2008, 10:50:22 AM
You have to play with her.  If she won't fetch, will she jump up at stuff?  I know she's visually impaired, but could she see a laser pointer (I remember you posting something about a laser pointer).  Jumping is tiring. 

She gets played with quite a bit, but maybe not enough for her psycho ass. 
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Alice on March 06, 2008, 02:19:07 PM
Quote from: Jessie on March 06, 2008, 02:17:18 PM
She gets played with quite a bit, but maybe not enough for her psycho ass. 

Buy a dog.  Tape Beggin' Strips to the sides of Stevie.
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: DownSouth on March 06, 2008, 02:21:11 PM
Quote from: Alice on March 06, 2008, 02:19:07 PM
Quote from: Jessie on March 06, 2008, 02:17:18 PM
She gets played with quite a bit, but maybe not enough for her psycho ass. 

Buy a dog.  Tape Beggin' Strips to the sides of Stevie.
Mutly ate a brand new bag of those when I was at work the other day.
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Alice on March 06, 2008, 02:23:17 PM
Quote from: DownSouth on March 06, 2008, 02:21:11 PM
Quote from: Alice on March 06, 2008, 02:19:07 PM
Quote from: Jessie on March 06, 2008, 02:17:18 PM
She gets played with quite a bit, but maybe not enough for her psycho ass. 

Buy a dog.  Tape Beggin' Strips to the sides of Stevie.
Mutly ate a brand new bag of those when I was at work the other day.
Bruce ate an entire box of Scooby Snacks once.  His butt soup was multicolored in places.
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Jessie on March 06, 2008, 02:24:50 PM
Quote from: Alice on March 06, 2008, 02:23:17 PM
Quote from: DownSouth on March 06, 2008, 02:21:11 PM
Quote from: Alice on March 06, 2008, 02:19:07 PM
Quote from: Jessie on March 06, 2008, 02:17:18 PM
She gets played with quite a bit, but maybe not enough for her psycho ass. 

Buy a dog.  Tape Beggin' Strips to the sides of Stevie.
Mutly ate a brand new bag of those when I was at work the other day.
Bruce ate an entire box of Scooby Snacks once.  His butt soup was multicolored in places.
I had a dog eat an entire bag of chocolate cookies once.  He pooped what looked like hershey's syrup everywhere.

It was awful.
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: ReBurn on March 06, 2008, 04:51:50 PM
I heard that the best way to train an animal is to beat it.
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Jessie on March 06, 2008, 05:47:51 PM
Both cats now have their front claws clipped.  Butters threw more of a fit, but holding her by the scruff of the neck leaves her motionless.  Stevie, on the other hand, flails about even more wildly when you try that with her.
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Gamplayerx on March 06, 2008, 09:27:00 PM
Congrats!  Now you have to keep clipping them.  It gets easier. 
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: grace on March 06, 2008, 10:05:04 PM
Quote from: Jessie on March 06, 2008, 08:54:29 AM
Yeah, I'm thinking I need to clip her claws.  I'm going to try that tonight, I think.

I just wish there was a way that I could train her to not be so psycho.  She really is just kind of crazy.  My dad has a cat the same age, and he's totally laid back and mellow. 

I love her so much but my god, that cat frustrates me.

let her OUT.....to wear-off her shit.
mine did that when she was young and i kicked her ass out when she got obnoixous. she became brutal, then humble when inside. 
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Jessie on March 06, 2008, 10:07:09 PM
Quote from: grace on March 06, 2008, 10:05:04 PM
Quote from: Jessie on March 06, 2008, 08:54:29 AM
Yeah, I'm thinking I need to clip her claws.  I'm going to try that tonight, I think.

I just wish there was a way that I could train her to not be so psycho.  She really is just kind of crazy.  My dad has a cat the same age, and he's totally laid back and mellow. 

I love her so much but my god, that cat frustrates me.

let her OUT.....to wear-off her shit.
mine did that when she was young and i kicked her ass out when she got obnoixous. she became brutal, then humble when inside. 
She only has one eye, and the other barely works.  Also, I live on the main street of an apartment complex.  It's just not safe for her out there.
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: grace on March 06, 2008, 10:14:05 PM
Quote from: Jessie on March 06, 2008, 10:07:09 PM
Quote from: grace on March 06, 2008, 10:05:04 PM
Quote from: Jessie on March 06, 2008, 08:54:29 AM
Yeah, I'm thinking I need to clip her claws.  I'm going to try that tonight, I think.

I just wish there was a way that I could train her to not be so psycho.  She really is just kind of crazy.  My dad has a cat the same age, and he's totally laid back and mellow. 

I love her so much but my god, that cat frustrates me.

let her OUT.....to wear-off her shit.
mine did that when she was young and i kicked her ass out when she got obnoixous. she became brutal, then humble when inside. 
She only has one eye, and the other barely works.  Also, I live on the main street of an apartment complex.  It's just not safe for her out there.

i understand, maybe give her a play space and throw her there in the AM....i would so i could sleep, if you have a space somewhere.
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Jessie on March 07, 2008, 08:27:02 AM
I woke up this morning because I got hit in the face with the curtain rod.

I'm going to tie her up at night or something.   (not really)

I played with her and wore her out last night, but that doesn't help that she's at her most annoying when she first wakes up in the morning.  I don't think I can make her tired after a good night's sleep.

I don't know what to do with her. 
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Gamplayerx on March 07, 2008, 09:14:18 AM
Don't let her in the bedroom.
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Jessie on March 07, 2008, 09:18:18 AM
Quote from: Gamplayerx on March 07, 2008, 09:14:18 AM
Don't let her in the bedroom.
Yeah, there's that.  She will cry and cry outside and I like sleeping with her, though.

I'm such a sucker. 

If she keeps waking me this way, though, I'm going to have to consider it.
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Alice on March 07, 2008, 09:41:42 AM
Have her vocal cords removed.
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Bennyhana on March 07, 2008, 11:46:26 AM
Quote from: Jessie on March 07, 2008, 09:18:18 AM
Quote from: Gamplayerx on March 07, 2008, 09:14:18 AM
Don't let her in the bedroom.
Yeah, there's that.  She will cry and cry outside and I like sleeping with her, though.

I'm such a sucker. 

If she keeps waking me this way, though, I'm going to have to consider it.

Next time she wakes you up, put her out in the car.  She'll hate it, but she won't be harmed, and you won't have to hear her crying.
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Beefy on March 07, 2008, 12:25:34 PM
Quote from: Bennyhana on March 07, 2008, 11:46:26 AM
Next time she wakes you up, put her out in the car.  She'll hate it, but she won't be harmed, and you won't have to hear her crying.

Whoa, man.  Like, deja vu.
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: eo000 on March 07, 2008, 12:35:16 PM
I can't wait for the "This fucking cat shredded my headrest and shit on the dash" thread.
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: swolt on March 07, 2008, 01:40:48 PM
Quote from: eo000 on March 07, 2008, 12:35:16 PM
I can't wait for the "This fucking cat shredded my headrest and shit on the dash" thread.

I've been thinking that all day
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Jessie on March 07, 2008, 02:03:15 PM
There is no way I could lock her in the car.  I'd be just as likely to lock Timothy in the car.  She's my baby.  Have you all not caught on that I am irrationally attached to this cat?
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: swolt on March 07, 2008, 02:10:44 PM
Quote from: Jessie on March 07, 2008, 02:03:15 PM
There is no way I could lock her in the car.  I'd be just as likely to lock Timothy in the car.  She's my baby.  Have you all not caught on that I am irrationally attached to this cat?

You never locked Timothy in the car? How did he learn to read?

"It's CAT mommy! The word is CAT! Now can I please have some air?"

homeschooling is tough
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Bennyhana on March 07, 2008, 04:26:21 PM
Quote from: Jessie on March 07, 2008, 02:03:15 PM
There is no way I could lock her in the car.  I'd be just as likely to lock Timothy in the car.  She's my baby.  Have you all not caught on that I am irrationally attached to this cat?

Timothy is old enough to be okay if you leave him out in the car in your driveway for an hour.  Stevie will also be okay.  There's  plenty of air in the car, and it's not like it's hot outside at 7am in early March.

It won't hurt her.  I swear to God.
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Gamplayerx on March 07, 2008, 04:50:02 PM
Anybody else wondering how many hours Benny spent locked in a car?
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Bennyhana on March 07, 2008, 05:12:49 PM
Quote from: Gamplayerx on March 07, 2008, 04:50:02 PM
Anybody else wondering how many hours Benny spent locked in a car?

Well, since I didn't rip drapery, waking my parents up, none.  I don't see how it's abusive if it's an animal and it's not hot outside.  It's just like locking her in the bathroom, but you can't hear her whine.
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: Jessie on March 07, 2008, 05:21:27 PM
I don't lock my cats in the bathroom either, though.  I'm not saying it's abusive, I'm just saying it's not for me.
Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: dazie on March 08, 2008, 11:41:26 AM
Separated at birth?

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Title: Re: I don't want to declaw her, so what should I do?
Post by: grace on March 08, 2008, 11:54:47 PM
paint her and stick to a wall........

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