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Title: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: VikingJuice on November 30, 2007, 12:10:38 AM
I know Favre was out with a rare injury(for him-iron man and all) and his back up is nowhere near the same caliber of player, the Cowboys just look so damned good.  The Packer defense was purported to be among the best in the league and supposedly was top notch against the pass but Tony Romo carved them up to the tune of 300 yards and 4 TD's.

The Cowboys are averaging 32.5 points a game (2nd) and 388 yards (2nd) a game offense and they average 122 yards on the ground(a must stat for all potential SB champions).  Defensively they are 11th in points and 7th in yards(not great but good enough).

Then there are the Patriots who are in the midst of doing things NO ONE IN HISTORY has ever done.  I don't mean going undefeated 11-0, a number of squads have done that.  It's HOW they are doing that is so unbelievably freakin' amazing!!  Just look at the numbers:
40.2 points a game.  In the modern era, no one has ever averaged that.  Few teams even can average 30 for a season.  In fact, even some of the best offenses in league history only averaged about 28 points but managed to land in the 30's about 8 to 10 games worth.  The Patriots have scored 38, 38, 38, 34, 34, 48, 49, 52, 24, 56, 31 respectively, that makes 30 or more 10 out of 11 tries.

The offense average 434 yards a game(1st), passes for 310.3 (1st), runs for 124.2(7th) and the defense yields 16.8 (5th) for 281.5 (3rd).

Their margin of victory is the largest in NFL history.  Their margin of victory alone is more than about 12 teams total scoring.  The Pats are scoring like no team in history.  They are currently on pace to shatter the scoring records of the 1983 Redskins, the 1989 49ers, the 1999 Rams and even the 2001 Rams.  And they've already knocked off the only other undefeated squads besides themselves, Cowboys 48-27, and Colts 24-20-BOTH on the road.

So as the leaves continue to fall and the season gives way to winter, two major league, historic heavyweights are trimming up for the end of the year weigh in.  It seems like the playoffs may be a mere formality in each division.

I personally hate the Pats.  Always have even back to their days of Steve Grogan and Tony Eason.  But I am enamored with their performances.  They are playing football at the highest level in the history of the league.  This game has NEVER been played this well.  Who knows what will ultimately happen, maybe there'll be an upset somewhere, maybe someone gets hurt and New England loses its steam, but for now, you should take time to appreciate history unfolding in an epic manner.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: VikingJuice on December 09, 2007, 10:15:20 PM
Perfection and Imperfection cross paths this coming Sunday.  In what amounts to a speed bump for the Patriots, the hapless, brainless, hopeless Dolphins roll into town with all the style and panache of the three stooges.  Miami sits, or rather lays there, at 0-13 while the 13-0 Patriots, fresh off of dismantling the NFL's best defense to the tune of 34-13 are revving their engines for the postseason run..  Brady tossed a gentleman's 4 touchdowns bringing his count to 45, just 4 shy of tying Peyton Manning's record set just two years ago.

In an odd twist of fate, Miami hopes to break the streak of the Patriots for more than just the current season's legacy but also for the franchises' legacy.  In what has become an annual rite of fall, the 1972 Dolphins remaining members continue to annually toast champagne when the last unbeaten team falls under the weight of perfection.  So far this year, the sparkling beverage has remained on ice and it appears that the tradition may come to an end unless somehow, by God's graces or by a lucky series of bounces, the aforementioned pathetic '07 squad can muster up a single victory. 

It would be poetic, it would be stunning, it would be a shot heard 'round the world, it would be....a freakin' miracle. 

Prediction:
Pats win going away 45-20 and roll on into history.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: Alice on December 09, 2007, 10:53:46 PM
The Pats will be taken down.  I predict Moss will get injured and suddenly they aren't so good anymore.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: BigDun on December 09, 2007, 10:58:46 PM
I'm going with Patriots and Packers. And the Packers will pull out a miracle win.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: Alice on December 10, 2007, 08:50:32 AM
Quote from: BigDun on December 09, 2007, 10:58:46 PM
I'm going with Patriots and Packers. And the Packers will pull out a miracle win.
I would throw things.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: VikingJuice on December 10, 2007, 11:05:13 PM
My posting about the Dolphins/Pats game was off by a week, instead they play the week after next.  My bad.

And at this point, I think the only thing that can derail perfection is injury.  Aside from that, they look damned tough to beat.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: Alice on December 11, 2007, 12:22:04 AM
It would be hysterical if somehow the Dolphins managed to beat the Patriots.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: Bennyhana on December 11, 2007, 12:57:53 AM
Quote from: Alice on December 11, 2007, 12:22:04 AM
It would be hysterical if somehow the Dolphins managed to beat the Patriots.

The dolphins were the only team to beat the bears in '85.  Pathetic they may be, but you know what they say about "Any given Sunday."

I wouldn't be surprised at all if they won.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: BigDun on December 11, 2007, 07:59:24 AM
Quote from: Bennyhana on December 11, 2007, 12:57:53 AM
Quote from: Alice on December 11, 2007, 12:22:04 AM
It would be hysterical if somehow the Dolphins managed to beat the Patriots.

The dolphins were the only team to beat the bears in '85.  Pathetic they may be, but you know what they say about "Any given Sunday."

I wouldn't be surprised at all if they won.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Pats put the water boys and coaching assistants on the field to play the Dolphins.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: Beefy on December 11, 2007, 10:13:19 AM
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/football/patriots/view.bg?articleid=1050066
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: VikingJuice on December 11, 2007, 01:30:54 PM
Quote from: Beefy on December 11, 2007, 10:13:19 AM
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/football/patriots/view.bg?articleid=1050066

I love football.  Even when all the animosity is just made-up unnecessary bullshit, it still makes the games more exciting to watch as grudge matches are played out.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: Alice on December 11, 2007, 03:43:17 PM
Quote from: VikingJuice on December 11, 2007, 01:30:54 PM
Quote from: Beefy on December 11, 2007, 10:13:19 AM
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/football/patriots/view.bg?articleid=1050066

I love football.  Even when all the animosity is just made-up unnecessary bullshit, it still makes the games more exciting to watch as grudge matches are played out.
Except now they don't let anything grudgy happen without causing a penalty.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: VikingJuice on December 12, 2007, 08:21:21 AM
New twist to spygate.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3151217
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: ursus on December 14, 2007, 08:15:42 AM
Quote from: Bennyhana on December 11, 2007, 12:57:53 AM
Quote from: Alice on December 11, 2007, 12:22:04 AM
It would be hysterical if somehow the Dolphins managed to beat the Patriots.

The dolphins were the only team to beat the bears in '85.  Pathetic they may be, but you know what they say about "Any given Sunday."

I wouldn't be surprised at all if they won.
One of the chefs players said something about an 0-fer season ruining the "any given sunday" paradigm. I thought it was kind of funny, given how close the chefs are to 0-fer... I would tend to doubt that the fish will win that particular game, are they going to play the Raiders over the next three weeks? That's a game I think they could win.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: Alice on December 14, 2007, 09:35:19 AM
Quote from: ursus on December 14, 2007, 08:15:42 AM
are they going to play the Raiders over the next three weeks? That's a game I think they could win.
Nope, they already played them.  And the Raiders whomped their asses too.  35-17.  The only reason they got 17 was because that was before Ronnie Brown's injury.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: VikingJuice on December 14, 2007, 05:57:53 PM
Quote from: Alice on December 14, 2007, 09:35:19 AM
Quote from: ursus on December 14, 2007, 08:15:42 AM
are they going to play the Raiders over the next three weeks? That's a game I think they could win.
Nope, they already played them.  And the Raiders whomped their asses too.  35-17.  The only reason they got 17 was because that was before Ronnie Brown's injury.


HEY hey hey...use gentle words when describing my team's complete ineptitude.  I talk about it freely but it still hurts being 0-fer the whole freakin' season.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: Alice on December 14, 2007, 06:29:26 PM
Quote from: VikingJuice on December 14, 2007, 05:57:53 PM
Quote from: Alice on December 14, 2007, 09:35:19 AM
Quote from: ursus on December 14, 2007, 08:15:42 AM
are they going to play the Raiders over the next three weeks? That's a game I think they could win.
Nope, they already played them.  And the Raiders whomped their asses too.  35-17.  The only reason they got 17 was because that was before Ronnie Brown's injury.


HEY hey hey...use gentle words when describing my team's complete ineptitude.  I talk about it freely but it still hurts being 0-fer the whole freakin' season.
Sorry. 

And the Raiders nicely ran the football for touchdowns more times than the Dolphins.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: VikingJuice on December 14, 2007, 08:51:40 PM
Quote from: Alice on December 14, 2007, 06:29:26 PM
Quote from: VikingJuice on December 14, 2007, 05:57:53 PM
Quote from: Alice on December 14, 2007, 09:35:19 AM
Quote from: ursus on December 14, 2007, 08:15:42 AM
are they going to play the Raiders over the next three weeks? That's a game I think they could win.
Nope, they already played them.  And the Raiders whomped their asses too.  35-17.  The only reason they got 17 was because that was before Ronnie Brown's injury.


HEY hey hey...use gentle words when describing my team's complete ineptitude.  I talk about it freely but it still hurts being 0-fer the whole freakin' season.
Sorry. 

And the Raiders nicely ran the football for touchdowns more times than the Dolphins.

Not only that, but their backup running back, who has not managed even a 600 yard season even once, gouged us for 173.  It was really UGLY.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: ursus on December 15, 2007, 11:07:43 AM
Quote from: VikingJuice on December 14, 2007, 08:51:40 PM
Quote from: Alice on December 14, 2007, 06:29:26 PM
Quote from: VikingJuice on December 14, 2007, 05:57:53 PM
Quote from: Alice on December 14, 2007, 09:35:19 AM
Quote from: ursus on December 14, 2007, 08:15:42 AM
are they going to play the Raiders over the next three weeks? That's a game I think they could win.
Nope, they already played them.  And the Raiders whomped their asses too.  35-17.  The only reason they got 17 was because that was before Ronnie Brown's injury.


HEY hey hey...use gentle words when describing my team's complete ineptitude.  I talk about it freely but it still hurts being 0-fer the whole freakin' season.
Sorry. 

And the Raiders nicely ran the football for touchdowns more times than the Dolphins.

Not only that, but their backup running back, who has not managed even a 600 yard season even once, gouged us for 173.  It was really UGLY.
It seems that neither season will bring much but high first round draft picks...

I think it's a crime that someone can use "Raiders" and "nice" in the same sentence. It's a crazy world. Upside down, even.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: Alice on December 15, 2007, 11:19:04 AM
Quote from: ursus on December 15, 2007, 11:07:43 AM
I think it's a crime that someone can use "Raiders" and "nice" in the same sentence. It's a crazy world. Upside down, even.
Hey, I didn't want to!  VJ made me not use mean words this time.  ;)
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: VikingJuice on December 16, 2007, 10:38:38 PM
Lost in the shuffle of my really shitty Sunday afternoon (see asshole thread), my beloved yet hapless Miami Dolphins FINALLY got off the shnide.  They upset the Baltimore Ravens in OT with a long catch and run from Cleo Lemon to Greg Camarillo.  Write that down because those are two names that probably won't even be in the league in two more seasons but for today at least, they are kings of Miami!!  WOOT!

Oh yeah, New England won their 14th in a row setting up a juggarnaught contest in Miami next week with the streaking Miami Dolphins. Because 1 in a row is a streak.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: Alice on December 16, 2007, 11:19:55 PM
I'm glad that they could win and make your day a little better. :)
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: VikingJuice on December 29, 2007, 11:42:09 PM
Today, sports history was made.  The Patriots just completed the first 16-0 start to a season in professional football history.  In the process, the Patriots scored more touchdowns than the'84 Dolphins, more points than any team in history, Brady threw for more touchdowns than Petyon Manning's record, and Randy Moss caught for more touchdowns that the unparalleled Jerry Rice.  To paraphrase Dr. Belloq from Raiders of the Lost Ark, 'most teams merely pass through history, the Patriots, they ARE history."

I've been watching the NFL since 1978 when the Houston Oilers were known as the "Luv Ya Blue" team from Texas, since Earl Campbell's rookie season where he rushed for over 1800 yards after winning the Heisman trophy in college.  I've seen good teams come and go.  I've seen perfection chased and missed time after time.  And even though the 1972 Dolphins were perfect, that was in a completely different league than the one we watch today.  The athletes of that time couldn't compete for very long in today's game against today's talent.  In all my years, I've never seen a team like these Patriots.  They aren't perfect in every aspect, but they are damned close, and they are perfect where it counts most-on the scoreboard.

Now the question that remains is can they finish the perfect season they've started?  They have this next week off and then will play the lowest remaining seed from the AFC's first round of playoffs.  They only need three more games to do what no one has ever dreamt of doing.

Stay tuned folks.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: Beefy on December 30, 2007, 11:25:49 AM
I miss Luv Ya Blue.  The enthusiasm thsi city had for that team was genuine.  The enthusiasm for the Texans has always seemed forced, like what's exciting is that Houston has a football team, not the football team itself.

I saw a little over two quarters of the game last night.  The Giants were not making it easy for Brady and Co.  And Randy Moss was just insane.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: VikingJuice on December 30, 2007, 05:11:11 PM
Quote from: Beefy on December 30, 2007, 11:25:49 AM
I miss Luv Ya Blue.  The enthusiasm thsi city had for that team was genuine.  The enthusiasm for the Texans has always seemed forced, like what's exciting is that Houston has a football team, not the football team itself.

I saw a little over two quarters of the game last night.  The Giants were not making it easy for Brady and Co.  And Randy Moss was just insane.

Yeah, that one series where Brady threw deep to Moss and Moss dropped it, then came RIGHT BACK to him for 65 yards and a TD was sheer BALLS.  That is a gutsy call on third and long, knowing you need momentum like they did at that point.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: Alice on December 31, 2007, 01:50:31 AM
Finally, the Bears were playing like a team I could really root for today.

Thank god for Captain Neckbeard.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: VikingJuice on December 31, 2007, 01:52:13 AM
Quote from: Alice on December 31, 2007, 01:50:31 AM
Finally, the Bears were playing like a team I could really root for today.

Thank god for Captain Neckbeard.

Orton will be the starter next year unless they land someone like McNabb.  He gets so little respect for what he's managed.  I didn't like the guy in college but you can't argue with his success in the pros.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: Alice on December 31, 2007, 12:49:38 PM
Quote from: VikingJuice on December 31, 2007, 01:52:13 AM
Orton will be the starter next year unless they land someone like McNabb.  He gets so little respect for what he's managed.  I didn't like the guy in college but you can't argue with his success in the pros.

Did you watch any of the Bears game?  Or see any highlights?  Our running back threw a touchdown.  It was awesome.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: VikingJuice on December 31, 2007, 01:23:46 PM
Quote from: Alice on December 31, 2007, 12:49:38 PM
Quote from: VikingJuice on December 31, 2007, 01:52:13 AM
Orton will be the starter next year unless they land someone like McNabb.  He gets so little respect for what he's managed.  I didn't like the guy in college but you can't argue with his success in the pros.

Did you watch any of the Bears game?  Or see any highlights?  Our running back threw a touchdown.  It was awesome.

I didn't see this week's game but I saw last week's shellacking of the Pack!  That poor Packer punter had just about the worst day a single player could have in the NFL and definitely the worst day I can recall for any punter ever!!  It became comical after a while.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: Alice on December 31, 2007, 01:27:37 PM
Quote from: VikingJuice on December 31, 2007, 01:23:46 PM
I didn't see this week's game but I saw last week's shellacking of the Pack!  That poor Packer punter had just about the worst day a single player could have in the NFL and definitely the worst day I can recall for any punter ever!!  It became comical after a while.

This weeks game was really good.  The best they've played all year, IMO.  But mostly because our offense was actually doing something and we had a huge amount of possession time this week.

Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: eo000 on December 31, 2007, 01:33:28 PM
Quote from: Alice on December 31, 2007, 01:27:37 PM
Quote from: VikingJuice on December 31, 2007, 01:23:46 PM
I didn't see this week's game but I saw last week's shellacking of the Pack!  That poor Packer punter had just about the worst day a single player could have in the NFL and definitely the worst day I can recall for any punter ever!!  It became comical after a while.

This weeks game was really good.  The best they've played all year, IMO.  But mostly because our offense was actually doing something and we had a huge amount of possession time this week.


finally got a good running game. :P
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: Alice on December 31, 2007, 02:28:41 PM
Quote from: eo000 on December 31, 2007, 01:33:28 PM
Quote from: Alice on December 31, 2007, 01:27:37 PM
Quote from: VikingJuice on December 31, 2007, 01:23:46 PM
I didn't see this week's game but I saw last week's shellacking of the Pack!  That poor Packer punter had just about the worst day a single player could have in the NFL and definitely the worst day I can recall for any punter ever!!  It became comical after a while.

This weeks game was really good.  The best they've played all year, IMO.  But mostly because our offense was actually doing something and we had a huge amount of possession time this week.


finally got a good running game. :P
:(
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: VikingJuice on December 31, 2007, 06:00:09 PM
Quote from: eo000 on December 31, 2007, 01:33:28 PM
Quote from: Alice on December 31, 2007, 01:27:37 PM
Quote from: VikingJuice on December 31, 2007, 01:23:46 PM
I didn't see this week's game but I saw last week's shellacking of the Pack!  That poor Packer punter had just about the worst day a single player could have in the NFL and definitely the worst day I can recall for any punter ever!!  It became comical after a while.

This weeks game was really good.  The best they've played all year, IMO.  But mostly because our offense was actually doing something and we had a huge amount of possession time this week.


finally got a good running game. :P

Yeah, the OTHER Adrian Peterson has been playing well the second half of the season.  He's put up some decent numbers.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: DownSouth on January 14, 2008, 03:15:21 PM
Yay!  No Cowboys.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: Alice on January 14, 2008, 03:18:59 PM
Double yay!

I was really disappointed at the Colts losing.  I think they were our only shot at New England being beaten.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: VikingJuice on January 14, 2008, 06:15:44 PM
Quote from: Alice on January 14, 2008, 03:18:59 PM
Double yay!

I was really disappointed at the Colts losing.  I think they were our only shot at New England being beaten.

I think you're probably right.

By the way, in case anyone likes totally random trivia, the conference finals will be exact rematches of week two.

I wanted the Cowboys to win because a Packer/Cowboy NFC championship is WAAAAY more compelling than a Giants/Packer championship.  The Giants just bore me to tears.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: BigDun on January 14, 2008, 06:50:27 PM
Quote from: BigDun on December 09, 2007, 10:58:46 PM
I'm going with Patriots and Packers. And the Packers will pull out a miracle win.

I stand by my prediction.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: Beefy on February 03, 2008, 10:54:14 PM
Man, I'm glad I didn't get up and leave my folks' place when I thought the Pats had a lock.  What an awesome end to the game!

Pats looked sloppy tonight, and NY had shiat for an offense most of the time.

Belachek (sp?) was a douche for leaving the field before the clock ran out, even if he had already said his piece.

I bet Gisele has already broken up with Brady.

Commercials of the night: Wall-E versus the vacuum cleaner, the hot air balloons were a cute idea, the Clydesdale and the Dalmatian was really cute, but my vote ultimately has to go to the Doritos mousetrap commercial.  It genuinely surprised me, and had me literally guffawing when I realized what had happened.  Proof that these commercials don't need to cost a ton, just be fun.

Oh, and Welker should be MVP even if his team lost.  Eli certainly doesn't deserve it, and neither did Brady.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: BigDun on February 03, 2008, 10:56:19 PM
I have to give the nod on the commercials to the Bridgestone ads.

There did seem to be a theme toward animals in the commercials this year.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: dazie on February 03, 2008, 10:56:54 PM
I liked that Doritos one, but I laughed the hardest at the baby making the e-trades then throwing up. 
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: ReBurn on February 03, 2008, 10:57:08 PM
I'm now even more anxious for Iron Man to come out.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: dazie on February 03, 2008, 10:58:03 PM
Quote from: ReBurn on February 03, 2008, 10:57:08 PM
I'm now even more anxious for Iron Man to come out.

I actually got shushed during that one.  SHUSHED.   >:(

But it does look pretty bitchin.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: Beefy on February 03, 2008, 10:59:16 PM
I thought the Leatherheads trailer looked like a lot of fun.

I was surprised at how much they showed in the Iron Man trailer.  My parents' reaction - "Another Marvel movie?!"
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: VikingJuice on February 03, 2008, 11:41:54 PM
I guess that's why they play the game!!  The Giants D-Line was spectacular tonight!!  They harassed Brady all game long.  I've only seen one weak spot in Brady's game over the last several years and that is consistent pressure from the front 4 while covering with the other 7.  The Giants consistently had him hurrying and throwing out of his natural rhythm. 

I've had this theory developing for a while now but haven't discussed it too much.  I've noticed that when there is a Championship game with a point spread of over 10 points, the underdog has actually won a lot of those games.  I can think going all the way back to the NY Jets/Baltimore Colts in SBIII where the spread was something like 16 points and the Jets pulled a massive upset.  Also in the Rams/Pats SB in Jan 2002, the spread was 14 with the Rams heavily favored and the Pats pulled it.  This game was what...12.5 at kickoff?  And the Giants pulled the upset.  It seems that if the dog is less than 10 points, the outcome is typical with the fav winning but if the dog is 10 or more under, they seem to gain extra momentum somehow.

Oh, and I thought almost all the commercials were really WEAK!  Wal-E was cute, the horse/dog one was good and that was about it.

Man, what a huge disappointment for a team to go 18-0 and then blow it with just minutes to go in the final game.  Wow, Boston has got to be pissed right now.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: Bennyhana on February 04, 2008, 12:27:22 AM
Quote from: VikingJuice on February 03, 2008, 11:41:54 PM
I guess that's why they play the game!!  The Giants D-Line was spectacular tonight!!  They harassed Brady all game long.  I've only seen one weak spot in Brady's game over the last several years and that is consistent pressure from the front 4 while covering with the other 7.  The Giants consistently had him hurrying and throwing out of his natural rhythm. 

I've had this theory developing for a while now but haven't discussed it too much.  I've noticed that when there is a Championship game with a point spread of over 10 points, the underdog has actually won a lot of those games.  I can think going all the way back to the NY Jets/Baltimore Colts in SBIII where the spread was something like 16 points and the Jets pulled a massive upset.  Also in the Rams/Pats SB in Jan 2002, the spread was 14 with the Rams heavily favored and the Pats pulled it.  This game was what...12.5 at kickoff?  And the Giants pulled the upset.  It seems that if the dog is less than 10 points, the outcome is typical with the fav winning but if the dog is 10 or more under, they seem to gain extra momentum somehow.

Oh, and I thought almost all the commercials were really WEAK!  Wal-E was cute, the horse/dog one was good and that was about it.

Man, what a huge disappointment for a team to go 18-0 and then blow it with just minutes to go in the final game.  Wow, Boston has got to be pissed right now.

I agree with Beefy-Belichick was a total douche for starting the charge onto the field when the game was not over, then leaving the arena before they'd managed to clear it to run the play required by NFL rules.

I was totally impressed with NY's Defense.  They often seemed to be everywhere- blitzing and in coverage at the same time.  It was amazing to watch.  The entire defense, including the coordinator, should get MVP's.  Brady's ass had a lot of grass stains on it.

But....who wants to see robert downey jr. as a superhero?  Did I miss a meeting in which it was decided every movie from geek literature is fodder for worship?
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: Beefy on February 04, 2008, 12:47:39 AM
Quote from: Bennyhana on February 04, 2008, 12:27:22 AM
Quote from: VikingJuice on February 03, 2008, 11:41:54 PM
I guess that's why they play the game!!  The Giants D-Line was spectacular tonight!!  They harassed Brady all game long.  I've only seen one weak spot in Brady's game over the last several years and that is consistent pressure from the front 4 while covering with the other 7.  The Giants consistently had him hurrying and throwing out of his natural rhythm. 

I've had this theory developing for a while now but haven't discussed it too much.  I've noticed that when there is a Championship game with a point spread of over 10 points, the underdog has actually won a lot of those games.  I can think going all the way back to the NY Jets/Baltimore Colts in SBIII where the spread was something like 16 points and the Jets pulled a massive upset.  Also in the Rams/Pats SB in Jan 2002, the spread was 14 with the Rams heavily favored and the Pats pulled it.  This game was what...12.5 at kickoff?  And the Giants pulled the upset.  It seems that if the dog is less than 10 points, the outcome is typical with the fav winning but if the dog is 10 or more under, they seem to gain extra momentum somehow.

Oh, and I thought almost all the commercials were really WEAK!  Wal-E was cute, the horse/dog one was good and that was about it.

Man, what a huge disappointment for a team to go 18-0 and then blow it with just minutes to go in the final game.  Wow, Boston has got to be pissed right now.

I agree with Beefy-Belichick was a total douche for starting the charge onto the field when the game was not over, then leaving the arena before they'd managed to clear it to run the play required by NFL rules.

I was totally impressed with NY's Defense.  They often seemed to be everywhere- blitzing and in coverage at the same time.  It was amazing to watch.  The entire defense, including the coordinator, should get MVP's.  Brady's ass had a lot of grass stains on it.

But....who wants to see robert downey jr. as a superhero?  Did I miss a meeting in which it was decided every movie from geek literature is fodder for worship?

Who better than to play a substance abuser?
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: ReBurn on February 04, 2008, 07:07:57 AM
Right. I couldn't think of anyone better to play Tony Stark than Robert Downey, Jr. Except maybe Lindsay Lohan.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: eo000 on February 04, 2008, 07:17:19 AM
Quote from: ReBurn on February 04, 2008, 07:07:57 AM
Right. I couldn't think of anyone better to play Tony Stark than Robert Downey, Jr. Except maybe Lindsay Lohan.
The trailer before Cloverfield was awesome.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: Beefy on February 04, 2008, 07:58:56 AM
Eli Manning did NOT deserve MVP.  The Giants defense worked way harder, and more successfully, than he did.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: ReBurn on February 04, 2008, 08:37:30 AM
Quote from: Beefy on February 04, 2008, 07:58:56 AM
Eli Manning did NOT deserve MVP.  The Giants defense worked way harder, and more successfully, than he did.
Apparently he won it for that final drive. But I agree with you. It took him pretty much the whole game to muster up what he found in the last two and a half minutes.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: Beefy on February 04, 2008, 08:45:18 AM
Someone on TF just made an interesting point:

A few years back everyone got all self-righteous and aghast when the world was subjected to some of Janet Jackson's nipple due to having no delay in place, but there seems to be no issue with a commercial of a big guy attaching jumped cables to his moobs and dancing around. 
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: eo000 on February 04, 2008, 09:12:45 AM
Quote from: ReBurn on February 04, 2008, 08:37:30 AM
Quote from: Beefy on February 04, 2008, 07:58:56 AM
Eli Manning did NOT deserve MVP.  The Giants defense worked way harder, and more successfully, than he did.
Apparently he won it for that final drive. But I agree with you. It took him pretty much the whole game to muster up what he found in the last two and a half minutes.
this, along with the touchdown pass to Burress, were enough to make him the stand out performer.
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The defense was the reason they won the game, but who could you give the mvp to? Tuck was the only one with more than one sack, and Butler had ten tackles, but that's about right for a strong safety.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: ReBurn on February 04, 2008, 09:13:35 AM
I saw that commercial. I didn't make the connection, though. The guy on TF has a point. Maybe if Janet Jackson had attached jumper cables to her boobs and started to dance around the outcome would have been different. Apparently she was just doing it wrong.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: Beefy on February 04, 2008, 10:10:47 AM
Quote from: ReBurn on February 04, 2008, 09:13:35 AM
I saw that commercial. I didn't make the connection, though. The guy on TF has a point. Maybe if Janet Jackson had attached jumper cables to her boobs and started to dance around the outcome would have been different. Apparently she was just doing it wrong.

It's just an odd inconsistency of standards.

My mother last night complained about how violent the commercials were.  I had to remind her she was watching a football game.
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: ReBurn on February 04, 2008, 10:14:02 AM
Quote from: Beefy on February 04, 2008, 10:10:47 AM
Quote from: ReBurn on February 04, 2008, 09:13:35 AM
I saw that commercial. I didn't make the connection, though. The guy on TF has a point. Maybe if Janet Jackson had attached jumper cables to her boobs and started to dance around the outcome would have been different. Apparently she was just doing it wrong.

It's just an odd inconsistency of standards.

My mother last night complained about how violent the commercials were.  I had to remind her she was watching a football game.
She was probably talking about that grasshopper that was eaten by the lizards dancing to Thriller, wasn't she?
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: Beefy on February 04, 2008, 10:14:40 AM
Quote from: ReBurn on February 04, 2008, 10:14:02 AM
Quote from: Beefy on February 04, 2008, 10:10:47 AM
Quote from: ReBurn on February 04, 2008, 09:13:35 AM
I saw that commercial. I didn't make the connection, though. The guy on TF has a point. Maybe if Janet Jackson had attached jumper cables to her boobs and started to dance around the outcome would have been different. Apparently she was just doing it wrong.

It's just an odd inconsistency of standards.

My mother last night complained about how violent the commercials were.  I had to remind her she was watching a football game.
She was probably talking about that grasshopper that was eaten by the lizards dancing to Thriller, wasn't she?

No, the Terminator ads mostly. 
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: Gamplayerx on February 04, 2008, 12:01:18 PM
Quote from: ReBurn on February 04, 2008, 10:14:02 AM
Quote from: Beefy on February 04, 2008, 10:10:47 AM
Quote from: ReBurn on February 04, 2008, 09:13:35 AM
I saw that commercial. I didn't make the connection, though. The guy on TF has a point. Maybe if Janet Jackson had attached jumper cables to her boobs and started to dance around the outcome would have been different. Apparently she was just doing it wrong.

It's just an odd inconsistency of standards.

My mother last night complained about how violent the commercials were.  I had to remind her she was watching a football game.
She was probably talking about that grasshopper that was eaten by the lizards dancing to Thriller, wasn't she?
That commercial was incomprehensible. 
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: Beefy on February 04, 2008, 03:30:30 PM
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/020408dnsponielsens.8c24e48f.html (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/020408dnsponielsens.8c24e48f.html)
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: Beefy on February 04, 2008, 03:58:38 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/02/04/brady.anderson.ap/index.html (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/02/04/brady.anderson.ap/index.html)
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: eo000 on February 04, 2008, 06:04:10 PM
Quote from: Beefy on February 04, 2008, 03:58:38 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/02/04/brady.anderson.ap/index.html (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/02/04/brady.anderson.ap/index.html)

I thought this was going to be about the ex-orioles outfielder before i read it.

(it's not)
Title: Re: Should we pencil them in now...Pats/Cowboys SB 42
Post by: dazie on February 04, 2008, 07:45:16 PM
Quote from: ReBurn on February 03, 2008, 10:57:08 PM
I'm now even more anxious for Iron Man to come out.

So's the guy at Time magazine:

Quote from: JAMES PONIEWOZIK
I'm not sure how much of this high-octane trailer has been in theaters already, but not having seen any of the footage, this trailer made me want to take a pill that will make me sleep a long dreamless sleep until May 2, then wake up and go to the theater immediately. So yeah, I'd say it did the job.

Grade: A