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Title: Wayne Shorter
Post by: manosax on October 06, 2007, 12:49:04 AM
Sometimes I forget how great his music is..
Title: Re: Wayne Shorter
Post by: DownSouth on October 06, 2007, 12:51:00 AM
Good ole Wayne Shorter.
Title: Re: Wayne Shorter
Post by: manosax on October 06, 2007, 01:29:14 PM
I really like playing over his changes
Title: Re: Wayne Shorter
Post by: DownSouth on October 06, 2007, 03:31:25 PM
Me too. Can't get enough.
Title: Re: Wayne Shorter
Post by: Beefy on October 06, 2007, 04:46:16 PM
Quote from: DownSouth on October 06, 2007, 03:31:25 PM
Me too. Can't get enough.

You're terrible.
Title: Re: Wayne Shorter
Post by: Jessie on October 06, 2007, 04:58:08 PM
Quote from: Beefy on October 06, 2007, 04:46:16 PM
Quote from: DownSouth on October 06, 2007, 03:31:25 PM
Me too. Can't get enough.

You're terrible.

He made me giggle.  Well, he made me perform an action that should have been a giggle but was more of a choked gurgling sound.  I am so over this whole tonsil thing.
Title: Re: Wayne Shorter
Post by: manosax on October 06, 2007, 09:26:07 PM
Actually, I was completely serious.  I heard two of his tunes (Speak No Evil, and Fe Fi Fo Fum) and I remembered that he writes harmonies that are great to improvise over.   >:(
Title: Re: Wayne Shorter
Post by: Alice on October 06, 2007, 09:38:15 PM
Are there any videos on YouTube?  I don't think I've ever heard of him - but I'd like to.
Title: Re: Wayne Shorter
Post by: Bennyhana on October 07, 2007, 09:07:37 AM
Quote from: manosax on October 06, 2007, 09:26:07 PM
Actually, I was completely serious.  I heard two of his tunes (Speak No Evil, and Fe Fi Fo Fum) and I remembered that he writes harmonies that are great to improvise over.   >:(

we knew YOU were serious.  they were talking about DS.

Sometimes I wish I'd actually taken music classes so i knew enough theory to improvise jazz without someone saying, "Hey, if you stick to this scale, it'll sound good."
Title: Re: Wayne Shorter
Post by: manosax on October 07, 2007, 12:20:21 PM
sometimes its really that simple.  The biggest thing that I have found is that you need to have the permission to make mistakes and sound bad.  I've tought improv to kids that are real beginners in music that haven't learned that kind of musical self-consciousness.  You tell them to stick to certian notes and they go for it.
Title: Re: Wayne Shorter
Post by: Bennyhana on October 08, 2007, 09:20:01 PM
Quote from: manosax on October 07, 2007, 12:20:21 PM
sometimes its really that simple.  The biggest thing that I have found is that you need to have the permission to make mistakes and sound bad.  I've tought improv to kids that are real beginners in music that haven't learned that kind of musical self-consciousness.  You tell them to stick to certian notes and they go for it.

My guitar teacher got to the point where every couple of weeks, he'd give me a chord progression and a scale to go with it, and he'd try to tell me how certain notes in certain chords in the progression didn't fit in the scale, and how I could deal with that.  Unfortunately, I started learning guitar without really learning music, so I know a good amount of chords, and I understand how their shapes make something minor, or seventh, or minor seventh, etc.  I also eventually gained a rudimentary understanding of what those things mean, but when I play, I feel shapes, I don't see what notes are in the chords.  I can figure them out, of course, but by the time I do, the song's over.  So, the long and the short of it is, most of the last year or so of my guitar lessons were over my head.  So I usually stick to the standard blues progressions and the pentatonic scale.
Title: Re: Wayne Shorter
Post by: manosax on October 08, 2007, 10:00:55 PM
You need to take theory lessons.  I think that with a basic understanding of the mechancs of music, you might get more out of it.  If memory serves, the Mel Bay guitar book (which is EVERYWHERE) has the fundimentals of music.  You should be able to get through most of that on your own.
Title: Re: Wayne Shorter
Post by: ursus on October 10, 2007, 08:57:03 PM
"Yes and No"

Damn! that's a cool tune.

Joey DeFrancesco's version is the schizznit.
Title: Re: Wayne Shorter
Post by: manosax on October 11, 2007, 12:15:17 AM
I just think that JOEY is the shiznit!