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Started by Beefy, October 09, 2005, 08:05:46 PM

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Beefy

Lions Gate released this film early summer to no audience interest at all.  On Tuesday it arrives on DVD, in both the R-rated edit that went to theatres and the Unrated edit that kept the gore in. 

This is a very suspenseful film, and also a slasher film in a sense.  I'm not going to ruin any of it for you, but if you enjoy the type of film you sit with your loved on the couch and squirm in suspense with, then this might be for you.  Also, it's got one of those endings that people will talk about.

The catch is, Lions Gate dubbed part of the movie into English before they released it.  They changed a subplot and, from what I read, removed an important character relationship that needs to still be there.  If you decide to go and watch it (I recommend you do if you have a strong stomach), try and watch the untampered French version, the way it was meant to be seen.  I promise that, love it or hate it, you'll forget the subtitles pretty quickly.

I also suggest, if you are interested, that you refrain from Googling the film.  It's been available in other parts of the world for a few years now and there are images all over the Net that will spoil the surprises for you.


Dry then Catch

im totally going to get it, i just need to remind myself somehow.  hey why do you have Moon KNight as your avatar

Beefy

Quote from: CatchrNdRy on October 11, 2005, 03:24:45 AM
hey why do you have Moon KNight as your avatar

I read yesterday that's he's being brought back.  Got me all sentimental.

Mr. Ubiquity

Quote from: Beef on October 09, 2005, 08:05:46 PM




Any movie staring a fiesty bloodied up crue-cut chick holdin a chainsaw, kudos in my book.
"if I wank to it, will u feel disgusted or flattered or a perverse combo of both?"

Beefy

Quote from: Marixis on October 11, 2005, 07:34:16 AM
Any movie staring a fiesty bloodied up crue-cut chick holdin a chainsaw, kudos in my book.

Yeah, I tend to agree with you there.  Especially if the chick is Estelle Getty.

Dry then Catch

Quote from: Armpit on October 11, 2005, 06:35:52 AM
Quote from: CatchrNdRy on October 11, 2005, 03:24:45 AM
hey why do you have Moon KNight as your avatar

I read yesterday that's he's being brought back.  Got me all sentimental.

he was like the lamest Avenger ever.  both Juggernaut and Moon KNight are powered by Egpytian gods but one of them really got the short end of the stick

Gamplayerx


Mr. Ubiquity

Quote from: Armpit on October 11, 2005, 10:12:05 AM
Quote from: Marixis on October 11, 2005, 07:34:16 AM
Any movie staring a fiesty bloodied up crue-cut chick holdin a chainsaw, kudos in my book.

Yeah, I tend to agree with you there.  Especially if the chick is Estelle Getty.

doesnt matter, as long as shes bloodied in someone elses coloring and has eitehr a depended tired of it all look in her eyes.. and is revvin the saw at full throttle..

*shudder*

i need a towel...
"if I wank to it, will u feel disgusted or flattered or a perverse combo of both?"

Alice

Quote from: Marixis on October 11, 2005, 12:38:40 PM
Quote from: Armpit on October 11, 2005, 10:12:05 AM
Quote from: Marixis on October 11, 2005, 07:34:16 AM
Any movie staring a fiesty bloodied up crue-cut chick holdin a chainsaw, kudos in my book.

Yeah, I tend to agree with you there.  Especially if the chick is Estelle Getty.

doesnt matter, as long as shes bloodied in someone elses coloring and has eitehr a depended tired of it all look in her eyes.. and is revvin the saw at full throttle..

*shudder*

i need a towel...
Even if it's Estelle Getty?  Sick.  :-X

Dry then Catch

have you guys seen the movie King of Ants? i haven't but it looks gruesome

Beefy

Quote from: CatchrNdRy on October 11, 2005, 12:59:55 PM
have you guys seen the movie King of Ants? i haven't but it looks gruesome

Well, it has to be better than King of Queens at any rate.

Mr. Ubiquity

Quote from: Alice on October 11, 2005, 12:58:35 PM
Quote from: Marixis on October 11, 2005, 12:38:40 PM
Quote from: Armpit on October 11, 2005, 10:12:05 AM
Quote from: Marixis on October 11, 2005, 07:34:16 AM
Any movie staring a fiesty bloodied up crue-cut chick holdin a chainsaw, kudos in my book.

Yeah, I tend to agree with you there.  Especially if the chick is Estelle Getty.

doesnt matter, as long as shes bloodied in someone elses coloring and has eitehr a depended tired of it all look in her eyes.. and is revvin the saw at full throttle..

*shudder*

i need a towel...
Even if it's Estelle Getty?  Sick.  :-X

if estelle getty is revvin a chainsaw lookin in my direction, if i cant out run her, damn right im gonna feign smile..  1 of me is bad enough, 2 1/2's of me is even worse..
"if I wank to it, will u feel disgusted or flattered or a perverse combo of both?"

ignom

Quote from: Beef on October 11, 2005, 01:03:24 PM
Quote from: CatchrNdRy on October 11, 2005, 12:59:55 PM
have you guys seen the movie King of Ants? i haven't but it looks gruesome

Well, it has to be better than King of Queens at any rate.

Stop baiting me.
Underneath this flabby exterior is an enormous lack of character.

DownSouth

I watched King of Queens last night.
16:15:43 [Gamplayerx] Juneau, I could really go for some pie. You better Belize it!


Mr. Ubiquity

shes feminine... she can come after me with a saw...  :evil: :angel: :angel: :angel:
"if I wank to it, will u feel disgusted or flattered or a perverse combo of both?"

ignom

I bought it today. It says it has the US dubbed version, the US unrated version, and the original French language director's cut version. I plan to watch the French version first.
Underneath this flabby exterior is an enormous lack of character.

Beefy

Quote from: ignom on October 12, 2005, 05:29:11 PM
I bought it today. It says it has the US dubbed version, the US unrated version, and the original French language director's cut version. I plan to watch the French version first.

No blaming me if you hate it.

Also, force Jessie to watch it.

ignom

Quote from: Beef on October 12, 2005, 05:36:29 PM
Quote from: ignom on October 12, 2005, 05:29:11 PM
I bought it today. It says it has the US dubbed version, the US unrated version, and the original French language director's cut version. I plan to watch the French version first.

No blaming me if you hate it.

Also, force Jessie to watch it.

This one I may blame you a little if I hate it. It cost more than Unleashed.
Underneath this flabby exterior is an enormous lack of character.

Beefy

Quote from: ignom on October 12, 2005, 05:40:59 PM
Quote from: Beef on October 12, 2005, 05:36:29 PM
Quote from: ignom on October 12, 2005, 05:29:11 PM
I bought it today. It says it has the US dubbed version, the US unrated version, and the original French language director's cut version. I plan to watch the French version first.

No blaming me if you hate it.

Also, force Jessie to watch it.

This one I may blame you a little if I hate it. It cost more than Unleashed.

Be sure to stay away from all quarters at the end of the film.

I think this chick is hotter than Amelie chick.

ignom

I assume that I'm watching the original French version. It's in French with English subtitles, but the opening credits were in English.

It started being all dubbed, and I guess I found the right version. The menu just says Play, but hopefully I changed it in the Set Up.
Underneath this flabby exterior is an enormous lack of character.

Beefy

You know, if I had known you were interested I could have sent you a copy months ago.  I would have been happy to.  That way you wouldn't have had to risk it.

ignom

I guessed the ending of the movie fairly quickly. Except several things didn't seem to fit.
Underneath this flabby exterior is an enormous lack of character.

Beefy

Quote from: ignom on October 12, 2005, 07:45:51 PM
I guessed the ending of the movie fairly quickly. Except several things didn't seem to fit.

So then what was your opinion?  Up to the big end reveal?  Including the end reveal?

I think it is a very suspenseful, well acted film until the end, which is too contrived for its own good.  Still, getting there is a lot of fun.

ignom

I thought it was pretty good. Would have been better to rent, or get a free copy.
Underneath this flabby exterior is an enormous lack of character.

Mr. Ubiquity

Quote from: ignom on October 12, 2005, 10:02:13 PM
I thought it was pretty good. Would have been better to rent, or get a free copy.

Started watchin it last night.   Damn couch is evil thoough.  knocked me out.  All i got to was the part where she and her friend get to the house and get settled in her rooms.  last saw her open the med cabinet in the bathroom.  I was wide awake and sitting upright and i zonked.

its gonna take forever to watch it at that rate.
"if I wank to it, will u feel disgusted or flattered or a perverse combo of both?"

Alice

Holy crap, I was not expecting that.

Beefy

Quote from: Alice on November 18, 2005, 10:42:44 AM
Holy crap, I was not expecting that.

I love that first death on the stairwell.  I cringe every single time I see it.

Alice

Quote from: Beefy on November 18, 2005, 10:55:23 AM
Quote from: Alice on November 18, 2005, 10:42:44 AM
Holy crap, I was not expecting that.

I love that first death on the stairwell.  I cringe every single time I see it.

The mom in front of the closet gets me.

Cindy and I were so squirmy during that - and we kept yelling at Marie in the movie.  I don't often lecture movie characters, but I was so mad she wouldn't just stay in one place.

Mr. Ubiquity

as soon as i saw how easy the head came off, i knew there wouldnt be much quality to the movie.

good blood splatter.
  how about the moms wrists being cut off..??

i still want a good explanation for the BS ending to the movie.
"if I wank to it, will u feel disgusted or flattered or a perverse combo of both?"

Alice

Quote from: Mr. Ubiquity on November 18, 2005, 12:06:46 PM
i still want a good explanation for the BS ending to the movie.

BS ending?  That was the best part.  What didn't you get about it?

Beefy

Quote from: Alice on November 18, 2005, 12:07:41 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ubiquity on November 18, 2005, 12:06:46 PM
i still want a good explanation for the BS ending to the movie.

BS ending?  That was the best part.  What didn't you get about it?

It certainly explains why she kept running around.

Beefy

Someone should do a slasher flick with marionettes.

Alice

Quote from: Beefy on November 18, 2005, 12:12:37 PM
Quote from: Alice on November 18, 2005, 12:07:41 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ubiquity on November 18, 2005, 12:06:46 PM
i still want a good explanation for the BS ending to the movie.

BS ending?  That was the best part.  What didn't you get about it?

It certainly explains why she kept running around.

That's the only reason I ended up being okay with the movie.  I was really irritated at most of it - "Why aren't you just staying in the fucking closet?"  Then the ending made everything okay.

Plus, Cindy and I had a very helpful talk.  If one of us is being kidnapped and raped & there is little to no chance of the free one being able to kill the kidnapper... then we're allowed to run and go get help.  "I'm sorry you're chained up in the back of the van... I'd really like to help - but he's got a knife and a shotgun & I have nothing.  So, um, good luck - I'm going to try to get to the police.  KTHX."

Beefy

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Alice

Very much so - I thought she was hot.  The odd thing was, in profile, she reminded me A LOT of Claire Forlani.  (Or however you spell her name)  But only in profile.

Mr. Ubiquity

Quote from: Alice on November 18, 2005, 12:07:41 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ubiquity on November 18, 2005, 12:06:46 PM
i still want a good explanation for the BS ending to the movie.

BS ending?  That was the best part.  What didn't you get about it?

Maybe i dont pay as much attention tot the movies ( I am blonde) but there were some parts that didnt make sense.  Maybe if i look at it in the Fight Club aspect, its all clear.

Shes in the back of the van while its driving and then gets out ( locked, so to speak, wth her friend chained up ) whos driving the damn van?  She beats the shit out of an old man , the so called kidnapper,  who was that? or was it her she seing things.   who gave themselves the nice little head thing in the van with the womans cut off head in the beginning??

am i looking into it too deeply, or am i missing the simpliest things?
"if I wank to it, will u feel disgusted or flattered or a perverse combo of both?"

Jessie

I just watched this.  I didn't realize I had the original French version on here too, or I would have watched it.  The version I watched was a very odd mix of dubbing and subtitles.

Should have read the thread first.  Of course, then Mr. U's last post would have ruined it for me.

I can't decide how I feel about it.  Much like The Machinist, any ending like this just leaves me with an, "Oh, another Fight Club" feeling.  I'll admit I didn't have it all figured out, but still.  And yeah, lots of it didn't make sense.  Did the car wreck even happen?  If so, how?

I know I'm two years late to this discussion, but anyone feel up to explaining it to me?
we should have kept the quote pyramid up to rape Jessie in the face.

Alice

It's been forever since I've watched this... I'll have to re-watch it for a better explanation.

Maybe we should put "Spoilers" in the first subject line?

Jessie

Fixed that.

I've read some stuff that said that it was ALL in her mind.  That's why nothing makes sense - none of it happened.  If so, I find that completely lame.  I know people don't love M Night nameicantspell, but the Sixth Sense did this beautifully.  It all made sense.  It was this tightly woven plot that all fell together.  To say that it just didn't happen in this movie is too much like the Wizard of Oz (love it as I do) it was all just a dream ending.  Any way you look at it, for me, the ending was a serious let down. 
we should have kept the quote pyramid up to rape Jessie in the face.

Beefy

One of the best slasher films of the last ten years... but with a debatable ending.

Alice

Quote from: Jessie on September 08, 2007, 08:48:02 PM
Fixed that.

I've read some stuff that said that it was ALL in her mind.  That's why nothing makes sense - none of it happened.  If so, I find that completely lame.  I know people don't love M Night nameicantspell, but the Sixth Sense did this beautifully.  It all made sense.  It was this tightly woven plot that all fell together.  To say that it just didn't happen in this movie is too much like the Wizard of Oz (love it as I do) it was all just a dream ending.  Any way you look at it, for me, the ending was a serious let down. 
What I got away from it wasn't that as much as... It did happen, but she is one of those people that acts out her dreams.  Those insane sleepwalkers who's bodies do whatever happens in their dreams.  Like that dude that strangled his wife to death in his sleep, because he was dreaming about someone raping and killing her.

Jessie

Quote from: Alice on September 08, 2007, 09:04:19 PM
Quote from: Jessie on September 08, 2007, 08:48:02 PM
Fixed that.

I've read some stuff that said that it was ALL in her mind.  That's why nothing makes sense - none of it happened.  If so, I find that completely lame.  I know people don't love M Night nameicantspell, but the Sixth Sense did this beautifully.  It all made sense.  It was this tightly woven plot that all fell together.  To say that it just didn't happen in this movie is too much like the Wizard of Oz (love it as I do) it was all just a dream ending.  Any way you look at it, for me, the ending was a serious let down. 
What I got away from it wasn't that as much as... It did happen, but she is one of those people that acts out her dreams.  Those insane sleepwalkers who's bodies do whatever happens in their dreams.  Like that dude that strangled his wife to death in his sleep, because he was dreaming about someone raping and killing her.
Hmm.  I didn't get that.  Still, what do you make of the stuff that couldn't possibly make sense?  For instance:

-driving two cars at once
-being in the back of the truck, locking herself in, and driving away
-giving a knife to the other girl
-calling the cops on herself
-the entire scene with the gas clerk.  He was communicating with her and the killer at the same time??
-I'm sure there are more, but that's what I can come up with so far.
we should have kept the quote pyramid up to rape Jessie in the face.

Jessie

Quote from: Beefy on September 08, 2007, 08:49:12 PM
One of the best slasher films of the last ten years... but with a debatable ending.
It was a good slasher flick up to that point, definitely.  I think the ending just took the wind out of it though.
we should have kept the quote pyramid up to rape Jessie in the face.

Alice

Quote from: Jessie on September 08, 2007, 09:21:12 PM
Quote from: Alice on September 08, 2007, 09:04:19 PM
Quote from: Jessie on September 08, 2007, 08:48:02 PM
Fixed that.

I've read some stuff that said that it was ALL in her mind.  That's why nothing makes sense - none of it happened.  If so, I find that completely lame.  I know people don't love M Night nameicantspell, but the Sixth Sense did this beautifully.  It all made sense.  It was this tightly woven plot that all fell together.  To say that it just didn't happen in this movie is too much like the Wizard of Oz (love it as I do) it was all just a dream ending.  Any way you look at it, for me, the ending was a serious let down. 
What I got away from it wasn't that as much as... It did happen, but she is one of those people that acts out her dreams.  Those insane sleepwalkers who's bodies do whatever happens in their dreams.  Like that dude that strangled his wife to death in his sleep, because he was dreaming about someone raping and killing her.
Hmm.  I didn't get that.  Still, what do you make of the stuff that couldn't possibly make sense?  For instance:

-driving two cars at once
-being in the back of the truck, locking herself in, and driving away
-giving a knife to the other girl
-calling the cops on herself
-the entire scene with the gas clerk.  He was communicating with her and the killer at the same time??
-I'm sure there are more, but that's what I can come up with so far.

I really am going to have to watch it again, my memory is really fuzzy on the little bits.

Beefy

Quote from: Jessie on September 08, 2007, 09:21:12 PM
Quote from: Alice on September 08, 2007, 09:04:19 PM
Quote from: Jessie on September 08, 2007, 08:48:02 PM
Fixed that.

I've read some stuff that said that it was ALL in her mind.  That's why nothing makes sense - none of it happened.  If so, I find that completely lame.  I know people don't love M Night nameicantspell, but the Sixth Sense did this beautifully.  It all made sense.  It was this tightly woven plot that all fell together.  To say that it just didn't happen in this movie is too much like the Wizard of Oz (love it as I do) it was all just a dream ending.  Any way you look at it, for me, the ending was a serious let down. 
What I got away from it wasn't that as much as... It did happen, but she is one of those people that acts out her dreams.  Those insane sleepwalkers who's bodies do whatever happens in their dreams.  Like that dude that strangled his wife to death in his sleep, because he was dreaming about someone raping and killing her.
Hmm.  I didn't get that.  Still, what do you make of the stuff that couldn't possibly make sense?  For instance:

-driving two cars at once
-being in the back of the truck, locking herself in, and driving away
-giving a knife to the other girl
-calling the cops on herself
-the entire scene with the gas clerk.  He was communicating with her and the killer at the same time??
-I'm sure there are more, but that's what I can come up with so far.


I agree that what we saw was how it played out in her mind, not necessarily how it played out in reality.

Also, I hope you watched the French, uncut version, and not the English dub.

Jessie

Quote from: Beefy on September 09, 2007, 07:25:32 AM
Quote from: Jessie on September 08, 2007, 09:21:12 PM
Quote from: Alice on September 08, 2007, 09:04:19 PM
Quote from: Jessie on September 08, 2007, 08:48:02 PM
Fixed that.

I've read some stuff that said that it was ALL in her mind.  That's why nothing makes sense - none of it happened.  If so, I find that completely lame.  I know people don't love M Night nameicantspell, but the Sixth Sense did this beautifully.  It all made sense.  It was this tightly woven plot that all fell together.  To say that it just didn't happen in this movie is too much like the Wizard of Oz (love it as I do) it was all just a dream ending.  Any way you look at it, for me, the ending was a serious let down. 
What I got away from it wasn't that as much as... It did happen, but she is one of those people that acts out her dreams.  Those insane sleepwalkers who's bodies do whatever happens in their dreams.  Like that dude that strangled his wife to death in his sleep, because he was dreaming about someone raping and killing her.
Hmm.  I didn't get that.  Still, what do you make of the stuff that couldn't possibly make sense?  For instance:

-driving two cars at once
-being in the back of the truck, locking herself in, and driving away
-giving a knife to the other girl
-calling the cops on herself
-the entire scene with the gas clerk.  He was communicating with her and the killer at the same time??
-I'm sure there are more, but that's what I can come up with so far.


I agree that what we saw was how it played out in her mind, not necessarily how it played out in reality.

Also, I hope you watched the French, uncut version, and not the English dub.

I didn't realize I even HAD the French uncut version.  I would have watched it if I'd known, but I didn't til it was too late.  I'll watch that version when I watch it with Carroll, who hasn't seen it yet.
we should have kept the quote pyramid up to rape Jessie in the face.