MP3 Players

[cnamon]

I am looking to get an non iPod MP3 Player.

Any suggestions?  I don't need a lot of songs, just something to listen to on the bus, walking, and when I get some strength in my foot, exercising.

[Bennyhana]

I like my SanDisk Samsa M500, but they don't make it anymore.  The new ones aren't as good, though they have more memory.

[Listener]

If you get a PDA/Pocket PC, you can just throw songs on a memory card and then you'll be able to do a lot more with the device.

[cnamon]

If you get a PDA/Pocket PC, you can just throw songs on a memory card and then you'll be able to do a lot more with the device.

I thought about that, but I want something a lot smaller.  I really don't have a use for a PDA outside of work.

[Listener]

If you get a PDA/Pocket PC, you can just throw songs on a memory card and then you'll be able to do a lot more with the device.

I thought about that, but I want something a lot smaller.  I really don't have a use for a PDA outside of work.

Indeed.  Plus, my PocketPC doesn't have a "button lock" function so every time I use it when I mow the lawn, the buttons bump against my pocket and screw things up.

How about this one?  http://reviews.cnet.com/Panasonic_SV_SD80/4505-6490_7-8010319.html - They say it's a bit pricey, but it's probably a little cheaper now.

[Bishamonten]

Don't waste your time.  Just get an ipod.  If you don't want a lot of space, look into the ipod shuffles.  Better engineering than any unit on the market and all the other models have a lack of accessories. 

[meredith]

yeah i point to ipod shuffle also.  small and sturdy


other than that, look for a device based on flash memory - one with capacity listed less than 2GB - because larger ones have disks that risk mechanical failure

[Bennyhana]

Don't waste your time.  Just get an ipod.  If you don't want a lot of space, look into the ipod shuffles.  Better engineering than any unit on the market and all the other models have a lack of accessories. 

Don't shuffles not give you the option to choose what you listen to?  Also, if you want to get a subscription music service (like rhapsody or napster), iPods do not support them.

[SockmonkeyHolocaust]

I have a close to four year old Creative Zen that I love to death and that has been through everything with me. It was cheaper than an iPod, too. the case is held together by one screw. It's great. I like it a lot.

[cnamon]

Don't waste your time.  Just get an ipod.  If you don't want a lot of space, look into the ipod shuffles.  Better engineering than any unit on the market and all the other models have a lack of accessories. 

Don't shuffles not give you the option to choose what you listen to?  Also, if you want to get a subscription music service (like rhapsody or napster), iPods do not support them.

That is my beef with an iPod...I don't want to be held to only using iTunes.

I am looking at the Creative Zen line...there are a lot of things that I like about the really small one (1GB).  It also has an FM tuner so I can listen to the news when I feel like it.

[Bennyhana]

Don't waste your time.  Just get an ipod.  If you don't want a lot of space, look into the ipod shuffles.  Better engineering than any unit on the market and all the other models have a lack of accessories. 

Don't shuffles not give you the option to choose what you listen to?  Also, if you want to get a subscription music service (like rhapsody or napster), iPods do not support them.

That is my beef with an iPod...I don't want to be held to only using iTunes.

I am looking at the Creative Zen line...there are a lot of things that I like about the really small one (1GB).  It also has an FM tuner so I can listen to the news when I feel like it.

The other nice thing about flash based players (though I don't know if this is true of the Shuffle) is that many of them run on regular, changeable batteries, so you don't have to worry about charging it or having to pay a lot for a new one 1000 charges later.

[Dry then Catch]

I've owned a Creative and an ipod.

The Creative takes all video and audio formats.  It uploads and downloads just like  regular portable hardrive.    I treat my stuff rather roughly, but my Creative Zen Jukebox 2 from 2001 is still kicking.  Creatives have a much higher battery life as well.

But its clunkier looking.  Creative makes a lot of lemons too.  The Zen Video I bought was a lemon as were many I hear.  But when they do work, they have a higher reliabilty than the ipod.

HERE IS WHY IPOD AND ITUNES SUCK:

one-way uploading.


I could take my Creative and transfer files between computers and sync, like a Palm Pilot would.

Itunes doesn't let you. It retricts your library to one computer.  That being said, Itunes is pretty much idiot proof if you use it the way Ipod intends.

[meredith]

part of the problem all of these companies have is dealing with the publishers.  itunes, napster, and rhapsody all give you files in different protected formats, so they can control file sharing.  your best bet is to rip music off bish, then you can use whatever player you want. 

[SockmonkeyHolocaust]

or use emusic which lets you download the files as MP3 players

[cnamon]

I think I am leaning towards these two:

http://www2.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?ref=cnet&utm_source=Cnet&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=CLZNMCROB6GIG&sku=CLZNMCROB6GIG

http://www2.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=CLNAN1GIGPLBLU

[Dry then Catch]

Slight derail:

do any of you guys know of a program that can trick your ipod/itunes to downloading onto a new computer?

I have the classic work/home computer set up and I'd like to be able to sync and transfer between the two. 

[Bennyhana]

I think I am leaning towards these two:

http://www2.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?ref=cnet&utm_source=Cnet&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=CLZNMCROB6GIG&sku=CLZNMCROB6GIG

http://www2.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=CLNAN1GIGPLBLU

I like the second one better, because it's 1/3 the price, not HD-based, and uses a standard AAA battery.  But that's me.

[cnamon]

I think I am leaning towards these two:

http://www2.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?ref=cnet&utm_source=Cnet&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=CLZNMCROB6GIG&sku=CLZNMCROB6GIG

http://www2.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=CLNAN1GIGPLBLU

I like the second one better, because it's 1/3 the price, not HD-based, and uses a standard AAA battery.  But that's me.

I like it better, too.  It fits all my needs.  I thought about the larger one, but I can switch with Jeff if I need more music (which would be a very rare case).

[Dry then Catch]

you could get a 30gb video mp3 player for the price of the first one. 

[dazie]

If you get a PDA/Pocket PC, you can just throw songs on a memory card and then you'll be able to do a lot more with the device.

I thought about that, but I want something a lot smaller.  I really don't have a use for a PDA outside of work.

Indeed.  Plus, my PocketPC doesn't have a "button lock" function so every time I use it when I mow the lawn, the buttons bump against my pocket and screw things up.

How about this one?  http://reviews.cnet.com/Panasonic_SV_SD80/4505-6490_7-8010319.html - They say it's a bit pricey, but it's probably a little cheaper now.

Why do you take your PC when you're mowing the lawn??

[Gamplayerx]

You know, the shuffles are really cheap now. 

Benny, you don't have to set it on shuffle, you can have it play in order.  Of course, it's alphabetical order, but it's not random.

[Bennyhana]

You know, the shuffles are really cheap now. 

Benny, you don't have to set it on shuffle, you can have it play in order.  Of course, it's alphabetical order, but it's not random.

See, mine cost the same and it has a screen so I can go to the song I want to listen to.  Or the artist.  Or the album.  I also have an SD card slot for expansion that the shuffle doens't have.

[Listener]

If you get a PDA/Pocket PC, you can just throw songs on a memory card and then you'll be able to do a lot more with the device.

I thought about that, but I want something a lot smaller.  I really don't have a use for a PDA outside of work.

Indeed.  Plus, my PocketPC doesn't have a "button lock" function so every time I use it when I mow the lawn, the buttons bump against my pocket and screw things up.

How about this one?  http://reviews.cnet.com/Panasonic_SV_SD80/4505-6490_7-8010319.html - They say it's a bit pricey, but it's probably a little cheaper now.

Why do you take your PC when you're mowing the lawn??

Handheld PC.  So I can listen to music.

[cnamon]

You know, the shuffles are really cheap now. 

Benny, you don't have to set it on shuffle, you can have it play in order.  Of course, it's alphabetical order, but it's not random.

It isn't a matter of cost...I would rather have something with more features.

[Gamplayerx]

You know, the shuffles are really cheap now. 

Benny, you don't have to set it on shuffle, you can have it play in order.  Of course, it's alphabetical order, but it's not random.

See, mine cost the same and it has a screen so I can go to the song I want to listen to.  Or the artist.  Or the album.  I also have an SD card slot for expansion that the shuffle doens't have.

Mine was free.

[Bennyhana]

You know, the shuffles are really cheap now. 

Benny, you don't have to set it on shuffle, you can have it play in order.  Of course, it's alphabetical order, but it's not random.

See, mine cost the same and it has a screen so I can go to the song I want to listen to.  Or the artist.  Or the album.  I also have an SD card slot for expansion that the shuffle doens't have.

Mine was free.

I'd be happy with that.

[Gamplayerx]

You know, the shuffles are really cheap now. 

Benny, you don't have to set it on shuffle, you can have it play in order.  Of course, it's alphabetical order, but it's not random.

See, mine cost the same and it has a screen so I can go to the song I want to listen to.  Or the artist.  Or the album.  I also have an SD card slot for expansion that the shuffle doens't have.

Mine was free.

I'd be happy with that.

[VikingJuice]

Just for the record, Itunes file organization method is teh ghey!!  It fucked up my entire file structure, including all my mixes because of the ridiculous defaults settings it has.  I had to mess with it for hours to get it all sorted out and then I had to re-import my entire music collection from a different drive to reset all the mess Itunes made on my machine.  Pissed me off something fierce. 

I've got all the kinks worked out-I think. 

I just bought an iPod from a friend on Tuesday night.  It was a 20 GB for about half what I was planning to pay.  I really like it and it is pretty versatile.  I also found it has a data layer that basically functions like a 1.5 GB jump drive.  You can access that feature through the drive section under My Computer.  I found some music my friend had tried to upload to the player and he put it there by mistake.  BONUS.  I got some Irish rock music that was really cool.  The crummy part is, it can't move data between the hard drive feature and the player section.

I really like iPod but their way of organizing music blows ass.

[cnamon]

OK...I decided on the Creative Zen 1GB player.

Where is the best place to purchase?

[Dry then Catch]

OK...I decided on the Creative Zen 1GB player.

Where is the best place to purchase?

I would hunt for a major retailer's online store.  and see if you can google a coupon.

[meredith]

http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=creative+zen+nano&btnG=Search


i don't see any coupons or other such deals available for it, so 64.99 seems like the best you'll see.  i hear amazon should have the 64.99 price also, and they seem a little less .. questionable .. than dealtree.com

[Gamplayerx]

http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=creative+zen+nano&btnG=Search


i don't see any coupons or other such deals available for it, so 64.99 seems like the best you'll see.  i hear amazon should have the 64.99 price also, and they seem a little less .. questionable .. than dealtree.com

I've found amazon very questionable of late.  Last week, they sent an e-card from me to my mom.  A birthday e-card.  A birthday e-card from October.  Of 2004.  I contacted customer support and they helpfully cancelled my order.  They haven't yet sent her the gift certificate I bought her for Mother's Day. 

[Mr. Ubiquity]

Slight derail:

do any of you guys know of a program that can trick your ipod/itunes to downloading onto a new computer?

I have the classic work/home computer set up and I'd like to be able to sync and transfer between the two. 

i used this a couple times and it was nice, it stripped away the encoding to make it free for all, however at the time it worked only with certain versions of itunes..   might wanna try

http://hymn-project.org/

[janegirl987]

Even though you allready decided, this is the MP3 player I have.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2155071&Tab=0&NoMapp=0

I love it, very durable, and is 512MB which is all I need.  It even has a fm tuner in it and uses 1 AA battery.

[Jessie]

I think that if I ever have any extra money, I might buy that same thing Dots.  Looks like a good deal.  I need to get an mp3 player now that I'm going to be doing a lot of travelling.

[ReBurn]

OK...I decided on the Creative Zen 1GB player.

Where is the best place to purchase?

I really like my Zen player.