Hard Candy

[Alice]

Wow.  This is one effed up movie.

I really liked it.  Probably 4 out of 5 stars.

[ReBurn]

I want to see it, but I feel like a perv every time I go to rent it.

[Alice]

I want to see it, but I feel like a perv every time I go to rent it.

Don't.  You should totally watch it.  Or join Netflix and not worry about it.

[ReBurn]

It's on pay-per-view. I guess I could also go that route.

[Alice]

It's on pay-per-view. I guess I could also go that route.

Don't watch it in front of the kids.    Not like you didn't know that already.

[Jessie]

Did I see this?  Or is it in my queue? Sounds familiar, I have to go look now.

[Alice]

Did I see this?  Or is it in my queue? Sounds familiar, I have to go look now.

According to Netflix, you've not seen it and it's not in your queue.

[Jessie]

It is now!

[Alice]

It is now!

Awesome.  Remind me to talk to you about it when you see it.

[Jessie]

Completely effed up.

[Alice]

Completely effed up.

Did you like it?  Or was it too effed up for you to like?

[Jessie]

No, I definitely liked it. 

I wish she had really castrated him, and I think that her being a friend of the murder victim took some of the horror out of it.  I actually liked it better when I thought she was just out to torture a pedo.

It was good, though. 

[swolt]

it's now on my blockbuster queue

[VikingJuice]

I read about this over a year ago and kept waiting for it to get released.  I guess it slipped under my radar for the theatre.  Looked very interesting.

[Alice]

No, I definitely liked it. 

I wish she had really castrated him, and I think that her being a friend of the murder victim took some of the horror out of it.  I actually liked it better when I thought she was just out to torture a pedo.

It was good, though. 

Yeah, I felt that way too.  But I suppose I can deal with the fact that she was. 

[Dry then Catch]

I found it sort of preachy, and I sort of wanted Kitty Pryde to die.  Yes I felt like that movie made me side with a pedophile.

[Alice]

I found it sort of preachy, and I sort of wanted Kitty Pryde to die.  Yes I felt like that movie made me side with a pedophile.

Preachy?  Really?

And did you get the X-men version of this movie?

[Jessie]

I don't think I got a preachy vibe from it.

It was so...it didn't really have a clear cut antagonist or protagonist, I think.  For me, that'd make it hard for me to see it as preachy.

[Alice]

I don't think I got a preachy vibe from it.

It was so...it didn't really have a clear cut antagonist or protagonist, I think.  For me, that'd make it hard for me to see it as preachy.

That was the odd part for me too - was that I kept flipping back and forth.  There was no hero, they were both kind of the "bad guy" and kind of not.  Plus the fact that I found him attractive really grossed me out.

[Jessie]

I don't think I got a preachy vibe from it.

It was so...it didn't really have a clear cut antagonist or protagonist, I think.  For me, that'd make it hard for me to see it as preachy.

That was the odd part for me too - was that I kept flipping back and forth.  There was no hero, they were both kind of the "bad guy" and kind of not.  Plus the fact that I found him attractive really grossed me out.

I saw a dude that looked A LOT like him the day after I saw it.  It skeeved me out a bit.

[Alice]

I should clarify - his character wasn't attractive, but I find him physically attractive.

[Jessie]

I should clarify - his character wasn't attractive, but I find him physically attractive.

Suuuure, pedo-lover.

[Dry then Catch]

I don't think I got a preachy vibe from it.

It was so...it didn't really have a clear cut antagonist or protagonist, I think.  For me, that'd make it hard for me to see it as preachy.

That was the odd part for me too - was that I kept flipping back and forth.  There was no hero, they were both kind of the "bad guy" and kind of not.  Plus the fact that I found him attractive really grossed me out.

they should have a standard "To Catch a Predator" type play the villian.  Not an successful, attractive Bohemenian photographer.  I think it would have made it more realistic. 

Has anyone seen Mysterious Skin?  It takes the child exploitation in a different and more effective direction.  And had a good ensemble cast. 

Was  Sandra Oh just doing a favor for a friend in Hard Candy?

[Jessie]

I don't think I got a preachy vibe from it.

It was so...it didn't really have a clear cut antagonist or protagonist, I think.  For me, that'd make it hard for me to see it as preachy.

That was the odd part for me too - was that I kept flipping back and forth.  There was no hero, they were both kind of the "bad guy" and kind of not.  Plus the fact that I found him attractive really grossed me out.

they should have a standard "To Catch a Predator" type play the villian.  Not an successful, attractive Bohemenian photographer.  I think it would have made it more realistic. 

Has anyone seen Mysterious Skin?  It takes the child exploitation in a different and more effective direction.  And had a good ensemble cast. 

Was  Sandra Oh just doing a favor for a friend in Hard Candy?

http://www.juntoonline.com/forum/index.php?topic=11614.0

[Alice]

they should have a standard "To Catch a Predator" type play the villian.  Not an successful, attractive Bohemenian photographer.  I think it would have made it more realistic. 

Not all pedos are uggos.

[Dry then Catch]

they should have a standard "To Catch a Predator" type play the villian.  Not an successful, attractive Bohemenian photographer.  I think it would have made it more realistic. 

Not all pedos are uggos.

find me an attractive one on state sex offender resgistries or "To Catch a Predator". 

[Alice]

With a different hair cut, this guy could probably be really cute.

[Alice]

This guy isn't bad:

[Beefy]

[Dry then Catch]

They would participate the Sex Offender Beauty Paegeant.

They are young and not initially creepy.  But they are no they are no Lensman319, aka Patrick Wilson. 

[Jessie]

Nice.

[Beefy]

Nice.

Hadn't referenced that joke in a while.

[Beefy]

Just saw it last night.  Disappointing.  Great performances, though.  And the most uncomfortable opening 20-something minutes I've sat through in a while.

[Dry then Catch]

Just saw it last night.  Disappointing.  Great performances, though.  And the most uncomfortable opening 20-something minutes I've sat through in a while.

what disappointed you about it?

[Jessie]

What about that one scene?  You know the one.  Eep.

[Alice]

What about that one scene?  You know the one.  Eep.

Which one?  There were a few eep scenes for me.

[Jessie]

The one where she was operating.

[Alice]

Oh, yeah.  *shudder*

[Beefy]

Just saw it last night.  Disappointing.  Great performances, though.  And the most uncomfortable opening 20-something minutes I've sat through in a while.

what disappointed you about it?

After about 45 minutes it had nowhere left to go and nothing left to say.  The ending was pointless and by that time I was watching the clock.  It was a short film idea stretched out to 90 minutes.  Also, when the "big switch" happens early on and you realize what the film is going to be about, it loses some of its discomfort and urgency because you're no longer reflecting reality.  You stick with it for the acting, but it has nothing left to say.  And so it drags itself out.  Psychological torture only goes so far as motivation, and then I'm not even sure it wasn't all ultimately undermined by the end of the film.  I thought it would have been far more intriguing to screw up his head and make him live with it.

And the red hood riding through the forest, having just dealt with the wolf thing?  Ugh.

Also, I agree with Catchr in that after a while I was really hoping the story would twist again, the dude would take back control, and little Kitty Pryde would get hurt.  At least that would have been something beyond more of the same.

The castration scene didn't bother me because a) by that time I felt the film had made its intentions clear that this was about psychological torture, not physical, and b) I wasn't all that interested in the plot anymore because it wasn't going anywhere.

[ReBurn]

Just saw it last night.  Disappointing.  Great performances, though.  And the most uncomfortable opening 20-something minutes I've sat through in a while.

what disappointed you about it?

After about 45 minutes it had nowhere left to go and nothing left to say.  The ending was pointless and by that time I was watching the clock.  It was a short film idea stretched out to 90 minutes.  Also, when the "big switch" happens early on and you realize what the film is going to be about, it loses some of its discomfort and urgency because you're no longer reflecting reality.  You stick with it for the acting, but it has nothing left to say.  And so it drags itself out.  Psychological torture only goes so far as motivation, and then I'm not even sure it wasn't all ultimately undermined by the end of the film.  I thought it would have been far more intriguing to screw up his head and make him live with it.

And the red hood riding through the forest, having just dealt with the wolf thing?  Ugh.

Also, I agree with Catchr in that after a while I was really hoping the story would twist again, the dude would take back control, and little Kitty Pryde would get hurt.  At least that would have been something beyond more of the same.

The castration scene didn't bother me because a) by that time I felt the film had made its intentions clear that this was about psychological torture, not physical, and b) I wasn't all that interested in the plot anymore because it wasn't going anywhere.

Kitty Pryde was so much hotter in the comics.

[Jessie]

I agree about the ending.

[Beefy]

Just saw it last night.  Disappointing.  Great performances, though.  And the most uncomfortable opening 20-something minutes I've sat through in a while.

what disappointed you about it?

After about 45 minutes it had nowhere left to go and nothing left to say.  The ending was pointless and by that time I was watching the clock.  It was a short film idea stretched out to 90 minutes.  Also, when the "big switch" happens early on and you realize what the film is going to be about, it loses some of its discomfort and urgency because you're no longer reflecting reality.  You stick with it for the acting, but it has nothing left to say.  And so it drags itself out.  Psychological torture only goes so far as motivation, and then I'm not even sure it wasn't all ultimately undermined by the end of the film.  I thought it would have been far more intriguing to screw up his head and make him live with it.

And the red hood riding through the forest, having just dealt with the wolf thing?  Ugh.

Also, I agree with Catchr in that after a while I was really hoping the story would twist again, the dude would take back control, and little Kitty Pryde would get hurt.  At least that would have been something beyond more of the same.

The castration scene didn't bother me because a) by that time I felt the film had made its intentions clear that this was about psychological torture, not physical, and b) I wasn't all that interested in the plot anymore because it wasn't going anywhere.

Kitty Pryde was so much hotter in the comics.

Sluttier, too.  She totally would have done Lensman319.

[Dry then Catch]

Just saw it last night.  Disappointing.  Great performances, though.  And the most uncomfortable opening 20-something minutes I've sat through in a while.

what disappointed you about it?

After about 45 minutes it had nowhere left to go and nothing left to say.  The ending was pointless and by that time I was watching the clock.  It was a short film idea stretched out to 90 minutes.  Also, when the "big switch" happens early on and you realize what the film is going to be about, it loses some of its discomfort and urgency because you're no longer reflecting reality.  You stick with it for the acting, but it has nothing left to say.  And so it drags itself out.  Psychological torture only goes so far as motivation, and then I'm not even sure it wasn't all ultimately undermined by the end of the film.  I thought it would have been far more intriguing to screw up his head and make him live with it.

And the red hood riding through the forest, having just dealt with the wolf thing?  Ugh.

Also, I agree with Catchr in that after a while I was really hoping the story would twist again, the dude would take back control, and little Kitty Pryde would get hurt.  At least that would have been something beyond more of the same.

The castration scene didn't bother me because a) by that time I felt the film had made its intentions clear that this was about psychological torture, not physical, and b) I wasn't all that interested in the plot anymore because it wasn't going anywhere.

Kitty Pryde was so much hotter in the comics.

Sluttier, too.  She totally would have done Lensman319.

phasing is the ultimate coitus interruptus

[Beefy]

Just saw it last night.  Disappointing.  Great performances, though.  And the most uncomfortable opening 20-something minutes I've sat through in a while.

what disappointed you about it?

After about 45 minutes it had nowhere left to go and nothing left to say.  The ending was pointless and by that time I was watching the clock.  It was a short film idea stretched out to 90 minutes.  Also, when the "big switch" happens early on and you realize what the film is going to be about, it loses some of its discomfort and urgency because you're no longer reflecting reality.  You stick with it for the acting, but it has nothing left to say.  And so it drags itself out.  Psychological torture only goes so far as motivation, and then I'm not even sure it wasn't all ultimately undermined by the end of the film.  I thought it would have been far more intriguing to screw up his head and make him live with it.

And the red hood riding through the forest, having just dealt with the wolf thing?  Ugh.

Also, I agree with Catchr in that after a while I was really hoping the story would twist again, the dude would take back control, and little Kitty Pryde would get hurt.  At least that would have been something beyond more of the same.

The castration scene didn't bother me because a) by that time I felt the film had made its intentions clear that this was about psychological torture, not physical, and b) I wasn't all that interested in the plot anymore because it wasn't going anywhere.

Kitty Pryde was so much hotter in the comics.

Sluttier, too.  She totally would have done Lensman319.

phasing is the ultimate coitus interruptus

It occurs to me that further speculating about how one could incorporate that power into the intimate moments people share could lead to some horrifying ideas.